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Post by Zany on Aug 1, 2024 7:40:37 GMT
]The poor people of Southport do not deserve anything like the thugs who turned up there and wrecked the place while they are mourning. You can never justify this by comparison no matter how you try. As if by magic and all of sudden, it becomes all about the community affected by the protest rather than 'the voices of the unheard' If this appears to be magic to you then you are so far from the rest of humanity. The voices of the unheard could have been expressed anywhere else.
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Post by Steve on Aug 1, 2024 7:42:11 GMT
This guy makes the point quite well, though his metaphors are a little colourful Well to quote Kirsty MaColl: he's a liar and . . . .
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Post by Orac on Aug 1, 2024 7:59:05 GMT
As if by magic and all of sudden, it becomes all about the community affected by the protest rather than 'the voices of the unheard' If this appears to be magic to you then you are so far from the rest of humanity. The voices of the unheard could have been expressed anywhere else. If it were anywhere else you would have made the point that it had nothing to do with that area. This is how cognitive distortions work As a side issue, I'm not sure the label far-right really applies here - the far right to tend to support Hamas, have a reduced issue with Islam and instead target the Jews (as the master manipulators behind the curtain of policy) Talking of Jews,, and if we are only talking about set and setting, many people made the point that the ostensibly pro Hamas parades in London (especially the first round) were an affront and threat to London's large Jewish community, who don't relish the idea of their families being burned alive on bonfires. The notion didn't prevent you being broadly supportive and conciliatory (along with the entire media)
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Post by Steve on Aug 1, 2024 7:59:29 GMT
100 arrests in London. The would be thugocracy is going to run out of active members at this rate. Well we can hope they're not given bail.
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Post by Steve on Aug 1, 2024 8:01:39 GMT
If this appears to be magic to you then you are so far from the rest of humanity. The voices of the unheard could have been expressed anywhere else. If it were anywhere else you would have made the point that it had nothing to do with that area. This is how cognitive distortions work As a side issue, I'm not sure the label far-right really applies here - the far right to tend to support Hamas, have a reduced issue with Islam and instead target the Jews (as the master manipulators behind the curtain of policy) Talking of Jews,, and if we are only talking about set and setting, many people made the point that the ostensibly pro Hamas parades in London (especially the first round) were an affront and threat to London's large Jewish community, who don't relish the idea of their families being burned alive on bonfires. The notion didn't prevent you being broadly supportive and conciliatory (along with the entire media) There were no 'ostensibly pro Hamas parades in London' Do you get all your beliefs from junk sites?
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Post by Zany on Aug 1, 2024 8:13:23 GMT
If this appears to be magic to you then you are so far from the rest of humanity. The voices of the unheard could have been expressed anywhere else. If it were anywhere else you would have made the point that it had nothing to do with that area. This is how cognitive distortions workAs a side issue, I'm not sure the label far-right really applies here - the far right to tend to support Hamas, have a reduced issue with Islam and instead target the Jews (as the master manipulators behind the curtain of policy) Talking of Jews,, and if we are only talking about set and setting, many people made the point that the ostensibly pro Hamas parades in London (especially the first round) were an affront and threat to London's large Jewish community, who don't relish the idea of their families being burned alive on bonfires. The notion didn't prevent you being broadly supportive and conciliatory (along with the entire media) But it wasn't was it. There is no cognitive distortion. South port is not a regular meeting place for the EDF, it has no history of EDF protests. They incited their members to go there and attack a mosque 500 yards from a (well words fail me) on the day after it happened. You pretending it was coincidence is grotesque, they (the EDF) not thinking it was inappropriate demonstrates their inhumanity. As I say your comparison is revolting. 8 Jewish children had not just been stabbed 500mtrs away from the march. Had that been the case the support would have been zero. No one was burnt on bonfires.
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Post by Zany on Aug 1, 2024 8:15:23 GMT
If you are looking to garner support for the silent majority by defending these thugs, you have done more harm to your cause than any media could.
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Post by Orac on Aug 1, 2024 8:27:24 GMT
If you are looking to garner support for the silent majority by defending these thugs, you have done more harm to your cause than any media could. I don't support violent protest, I'm just highlighting your titanic hypocrisy and double standards
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Post by Steve on Aug 1, 2024 8:28:54 GMT
If you are looking to garner support for the silent majority by defending these thugs, you have done more harm to your cause than any media could. I don't support violent protest, I'm just highlighting your titanic hypocrisy and double standards No you are using fake story after fake story to deflect valid criticism of feral thugs. Sure looks like you are going out of your way to support them.
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Post by patman post on Aug 1, 2024 14:28:18 GMT
If you are looking to garner support for the silent majority by defending these thugs, you have done more harm to your cause than any media could. I don't support violent protest, I'm just highlighting your titanic hypocrisy and double standards Why is it hypocrisy to be against violent street demonstrations? What does violence achieve? How do these violent imported mobs rampaging around streets destroying property, looting businesses, terrorising local citizens, etc, solve any problems?
To me, football-thug like gangs congregating on a town where many in the community were holding vigil in support of grieving parents, relatives and friends — and elsewhere since — just shows that classic NF/BNP/Stormfront views and enjoyment of fighting and smashing property continue to appeal to a particular brutish sector of British male society...
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Post by Zany on Aug 1, 2024 14:35:10 GMT
If you are looking to garner support for the silent majority by defending these thugs, you have done more harm to your cause than any media could. I don't support violent protest, I'm just highlighting your titanic hypocrisy and double standards While missing the point entirely. If its just about violent protest, you have missed what everyone is talking about and that is the inappropriate place and time of this violence, A violent fight at someone's wedding is not comparable to a violent fight at someone's stag do.
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Post by Orac on Aug 1, 2024 15:20:04 GMT
I don't support violent protest, I'm just highlighting your titanic hypocrisy and double standards Why is it hypocrisy to be against violent street demonstrations? I'm not saying that it is - that's my position. For instance i didn't try to trivialise the 18 month long spasm of arson, looting, vandalism and assault that happened in the US. I'm also highlighting the shift in tone in the official commentary on various recent protests. You would have to give the conversation a glance to see my point.,
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Post by Orac on Aug 1, 2024 15:21:39 GMT
I don't support violent protest, I'm just highlighting your titanic hypocrisy and double standards A violent fight at someone's wedding is not comparable to a violent fight at someone's stag do. Of course, if it happened anywhere else, that fact that it did so would have provided another route to your preferred conclusion. Someone who is accused of hypocrisy looks for a distinction - any distinction will do Total and conscious dishonesty
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Post by Orac on Aug 1, 2024 15:22:41 GMT
Edward Dutton makes the same point
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 1, 2024 15:37:25 GMT
This guy makes the point quite well, though his metaphors are a little colourful What foreign killers?
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