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Post by Steve on Jun 11, 2024 8:57:06 GMT
And this is the sort of detritus Farage think is fine to represent his party. Someone who says we should have not opposed Hitler, that women should be deprived of health care and that women are the 'sponging gender' www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjmmrwexv4koIan Gribbin now says he's sorry (that he was found out) Oh he's the Reform candidate in my constituency too.
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Post by dappy on Jun 11, 2024 9:15:53 GMT
To be fair there was a substantial body of opinion at the time suggesting we should not go to war against Germany and then again whether we should sue for peace after Dunkirk.
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Post by montegriffo on Jun 11, 2024 9:38:49 GMT
To be fair there was a substantial body of opinion at the time suggesting we should not go to war against Germany and then again whether we should sue for peace after Dunkirk. Not really a valid opinion these days though is it? Not now we know the full extent of what was going on in the death camps.
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Post by Steve on Jun 11, 2024 13:24:12 GMT
More like now we know the full extent of the sort of people that are allowed to be leading lights of the Reform party. Misogynist Nazi lovers.
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Post by Steve on Jun 11, 2024 14:38:17 GMT
So you are only referring to people who pre meditatedly throw milkshakes at politicians? The most serious of crimes! And with the soft touch shown to that milkshake throwing Only Fans promoting tart what do we see now. Construction site debris thrown at him. Unless we crack down this could get lethal www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmjj1n030djo
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Post by Zany on Jun 11, 2024 19:05:15 GMT
And this is the sort of detritus Farage think is fine to represent his party. Someone who says we should have not opposed Hitler, that women should be deprived of health care and that women are the 'sponging gender' www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjmmrwexv4koIan Gribbin now says he's sorry (that he was found out) Oh he's the Reform candidate in my constituency too. Jeez what an arse.
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Post by Steve on Jun 11, 2024 21:25:29 GMT
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Post by Steve on Jun 11, 2024 22:23:32 GMT
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Post by Zany on Jun 12, 2024 6:52:44 GMT
Scary. With Reform on par with the Tories 36% between them, could they join to win the election? Any idea why Labour lost 9 points? This story is not finished by any means.
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Post by dappy on Jun 12, 2024 8:23:01 GMT
Don’t read too much into one poll. Much as I would like them to be , I don’t believe the LDs are on 15%. Not sure where you get the 9% drop either - Lab haven’t been on 47% for months if at all. Nor could Tory and reform unite without shedding much of the remaining “one nation” vote. One of their issues for the future is that their broad coalition seems to have perhaps fatally shattered.
Labour seem to be playing it very safe - if I offer to volunteer in my constituency which Electoral Calculus has as a narrow Lab win, I am directed instead to a constituency down the road which EC think is in the bag.
Have to say that barring any major events, it feels in the bag. Real interest is what happens after.
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Post by Zany on Jun 12, 2024 10:46:16 GMT
Don’t read too much into one poll. Much as I would like them to be , I don’t believe the LDs are on 15%. Not sure where you get the 9% drop either - Lab haven’t been on 47% for months if at all. Nor could Tory and reform unite without shedding much of the remaining “one nation” vote. One of their issues for the future is that their broad coalition seems to have perhaps fatally shattered. Labour seem to be playing it very safe - if I offer to volunteer in my constituency which Electoral Calculus has as a narrow Lab win, I am directed instead to a constituency down the road which EC think is in the bag. Have to say that barring any major events, it feels in the bag. Real interest is what happens after. According to the poll above labour halve fallen from 47 to 38% over the last week. Happy if they're wrong. I wonder how many Tory voters would sacrifice principle to get power. A Reform/Tory Right wing party.
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Post by equivocal on Jun 12, 2024 11:10:04 GMT
Don’t read too much into one poll. Much as I would like them to be , I don’t believe the LDs are on 15%. Not sure where you get the 9% drop either - Lab haven’t been on 47% for months if at all. Nor could Tory and reform unite without shedding much of the remaining “one nation” vote. One of their issues for the future is that their broad coalition seems to have perhaps fatally shattered. Labour seem to be playing it very safe - if I offer to volunteer in my constituency which Electoral Calculus has as a narrow Lab win, I am directed instead to a constituency down the road which EC think is in the bag. Have to say that barring any major events, it feels in the bag. Real interest is what happens after. According to the poll above labour halve fallen from 47 to 38% over the last week. Happy if they're wrong. I wonder how many Tory voters would sacrifice principle to get power. A Reform/Tory Right wing party. Yougov has changed its method of calculation.
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Post by dappy on Jun 12, 2024 11:21:12 GMT
I am a bit puzzled tbh as Britain elects which shows all polls and the movement since the last YouGov poll as being three points not nine.
I don’t think you can combine Tory and Reform vote and get a merged party vote as the total of the two.
I guess we will know the outcome in three weeks or so.
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Post by Zany on Jun 12, 2024 15:19:38 GMT
According to the poll above labour halve fallen from 47 to 38% over the last week. Happy if they're wrong. I wonder how many Tory voters would sacrifice principle to get power. A Reform/Tory Right wing party. Yougov has changed its method of calculation.
Thanks Eq. I wonder if its the way they treat don't knows? Normally these are left out of the calcs, but many are saying this was inaccurate on this occasion because so many would be Tories are ticking don't know.
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Post by Zany on Jun 12, 2024 15:21:09 GMT
I am a bit puzzled tbh as Britain elects which shows all polls and the movement since the last YouGov poll as being three points not nine. I don’t think you can combine Tory and Reform vote and get a merged party vote as the total of the two. I guess we will know the outcome in three weeks or so. Who knows Dappy. I'm just making sure Labour voters get out there and make sure we don't get another Brexit,
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