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The following image explains why the maps are wrong:
Oh the irony. Take your first claim that in 1946 the land was British. It wasn't, we the British were given a mandate by the League of Nations
to administer temporarily that had previously been in the Ottoman empire. Part of that was to establish a small jewish homeland as well as an Arab Palestinian state. But many on the the Jewish side wanted far more so launched a terrorist campaign through the Stern Gang - the forerunner of the Likud party that now runs Israel.
We abandoned the mandate and withdrew leading to a number of Arab nations invading and losing the resulting war to the nascent Jewish state. The end of that led to casefore lines and the recognition of Israel to those lines in 1948.
That's the line to draw in the sand: the UN recognition of the state of Israel. Now maybe you could explain why Israel demands to own and rule territory in excess of that? Because it is that stealing of extra territory that has been the cause of the unrest for decades..
Contributor "Steve" wrote:
'Take your first claim that in 1946 the land was British. It wasn't, we the British were given a mandate by the League of Nations to administer temporarily that had previously been in the Ottoman empire.':
No, I did not say "the land was British", and yes I did refer to the Mandate awarded to Great Britain.
Contributor "Steve" also wrote:
'Part of that was to establish a small jewish homeland as well as an Arab Palestinian state.':
That is not quite correct. The Balfour Declaration 1917 promised the British would establish:
The wording of the Balfour Declaration 1917 was written
word-for-word into the Mandate subsequently in 1922 awarded by the League of Nations (later the United Nations) to Great Britain.
League of Nations Mandate document (English):
avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.aspThe reason why the same was not provided for the Arabs as for the Jews, was because it was well known at the time that the Arabs mostly originated from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate, to take advantage of higher wages through Jewish returnee-exiles:
richardmatherblog.wordpress.com/2015/05/Contributor "Steve" wrote:
'But many on the the Jewish side wanted far more so launched a terrorist campaign through the Stern Gang':
The United Nations passed a proposed Partition Plan under resolution 181 in 1947 (an attempt at at two-state solution). This was accepted by the Jewish Community but it takes both parties to make any agreement. The Arab response was to start a civil war which intensified between 1947 to 1948, with the following aims: To oppose the U.N. Partition Plan, take ALL the land, and expel or murder the Jews. Surrounding Arab states invaded to militarily support the aims of the Palestinian Arabs.
Change in British Policy and breach of their Mandate:The Arabs commenced rioting 1936 to 1939:
www.encyclopedia.com/humanities/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/palestine-arab-revolt-1936-1939The Arab rioting of 1936 lead to a change of policy by the British under their White Paper of May 1939, which was from allowing Jewish immigration, to instead:
Limiting Jewish immigration while allowing Arab immigration:
www.historycentral.com/Israel/1939WhitePaper.htmlTherefore from 1939 when the British changed policy to favour the Arabs, and ceased to be in compliance with their Mandate, the British became in “Palestine” an illegal colonial regime.
The Jewish defence now had to adapt from not only defending the Jewish community against Arab attacks, but also against British assistance to the Arabs.
There were three main Jewish defence organisations at the time, one of which contributor "Steve" has mentioned.
The Arab attacks became so intense as time went on that the Jewish defence increased to the extent that it became possible for the re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty and Jewish self-determination, over their ancestral homeland of Israel.
Contributor "Steve" also wrote:
'That's the line to draw in the sand: the UN recognition of the state of Israel. Now maybe you could explain why Israel demands to own and rule territory in excess of that? Because it is that stealing of extra territory that has been the cause of the unrest for decades.. ':
The Palestinian Arabs rejected the U.N. Partition Plan.
The post-war recognition of Israel by the U.N. is not relevant to borders, as there were as yet no established borders; only armistice lines.
Israel has not taken any land illegally.
The only land taken since 1948 was in 1967, land which had been
illegally-occupied by Egypt which was Gaza,
land illegally-occupied by Transjordan (now Jordan) which was Judah and Samaria ("West Bank"), and East Jerusalem (from which the Jordanians had expelled the Jews), and
the Golan Heights illegally-occupied by Syria.
All those lands never belonged to any entity called "Palestine".
There has never been any indigenous "Palestine" / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the Palestinian Arabs could claim any part of the land of Israel.
Israel has not stolen any territory. Israel does not hold any "extra territory".
The current borders of Israel are Re-established within the Jewish ancestral homeland. Internationally-recognised history shows that the last indigenous sovereign state in the land of Israel (Roman-imposed name “Palestine”), prior to the RE-establishment of Israel in 1948, was the post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom. It included the “West Bank”, Gaza, and Golan Heights. Capital (what is now East) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH - Map [this map is shown in a previous post of mine here]:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Hasmonean_kingdom.jpgTherefore Israel / the Jewish people logically cannot:
“invade”,
or “steal” ,
or “illegally-occupy”, ,
or “illegally-settle”,
or “be a colony on”,
its OWN ancestral-homeland.
(And I'm also British, by the way!)
