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Post by AvonCalling on Aug 7, 2024 16:24:59 GMT
During the development phase I would introduce National Service to ensure dirty arses get wiped I wouldn't. I don't like the idea of our elderly and vulnerable being looked after by people who do not want to be there. I was trying to be funny 😁 |
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Post by AvonCalling on Aug 7, 2024 16:27:20 GMT
I think the first thing to look at is whether we need 650,000 extra arse wipers each year. Having refigured that number we could look at how we provide the number of arse wipers actually required. 1, Offer better money for arse wiping (While stopping degenerating a rewarding job in care by calling it arse wiping) Care home bills not high enough already? I think the problem with care home bills is that's how much it costs to care for people and you can't magic it away and neither should the whole country have to suffer excessive immigration (it is a Ponzi scheme) to keep care bills down for a few. |
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Post by AvonCalling on Aug 7, 2024 16:30:17 GMT
There is in fact a very great deal a government can do about allowing 600,000+ migrants into the country in a year they can for example not let them in. Agreed. But which don’t the government let in, and how do they stop the asylum seekers arriving — mine the beaches…? As far as legal migration is concerned you start with an honest debate covering costs and needs. As far as illegals are concerned I am sure I heard somewhere that Germany has more...I would start with looking at how they handle it and any other comparable countries |
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Post by patman post on Aug 7, 2024 16:32:25 GMT
Yes, they’re small parties for a reason — lack of enough relevant support to be big parties. Perhaps - but their support wasn't small because they pledged to reduce immigration. Like i said, the conservatives pledged to reduce immigration in several elections they won and at least once pledged to reduce it by an order of magnitudeIt looks to me like you have a mental block. Surely, it must show some sort of mass mental block to accept the promises of reduced immigration election after election but continue to vote for those who make the promises. On the other hand, it might be that the majority of voters aren’t so concerned with immigration as you believe them to be. A survey of voter concerns prior to the recent election carried this finding: Immigration is the number one issue for Conservative supporters in the latest Ipsos polling, but doesn’t even register in the top five for Labour. This is a bigger partisan divide in salience than we find on any other issue.ukandeu.ac.uk/immigration-what-the-public-think-as-the-election-approaches/Given the trouncing the Tories got, I guess my appraisal is valid… |
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Post by Zany on Aug 7, 2024 16:42:16 GMT
There is in fact a very great deal a government can do about allowing 600,000+ migrants into the country in a year they can for example not let them in. Agreed. But which don’t the government let in, and how do they stop the asylum seekers arriving — mine the beaches…? Asylum seekers numbers are very small compared to invited migrants. |
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Post by Zany on Aug 7, 2024 16:43:01 GMT
I wouldn't. I don't like the idea of our elderly and vulnerable being looked after by people who do not want to be there. I was trying to be funny 😁 Beg pardon.  |
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 7, 2024 16:50:41 GMT
Care home bills not high enough already? I think the problem with care home bills is that's how much it costs to care for people and you can't magic it away and neither should the whole country have to suffer excessive immigration (it is a Ponzi scheme) to keep care bills down for a few. Up to 60% of the cost of running care homes is staff. Currently most care workers are on or near minimum wage. I suspect you would have to double that wage to make it attractive to most British workers. A rise in wages would lead to a large increase in care home bills which are already averaging about £5k a month. |
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Post by patman post on Aug 7, 2024 16:59:17 GMT
Agreed. But which don’t the government let in, and how do they stop the asylum seekers arriving — mine the beaches…? Asylum seekers numbers are very small compared to invited migrants. If that’s what’s worrying people, stop inviting them — or is that not possible…? |
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Post by Zany on Aug 7, 2024 17:07:54 GMT
I think the problem with care home bills is that's how much it costs to care for people and you can't magic it away and neither should the whole country have to suffer excessive immigration (it is a Ponzi scheme) to keep care bills down for a few. Up to 60% of the cost of running care homes is staff. Currently most care workers are on or near minimum wage. I suspect you would have to double that wage to make it attractive to most British workers. A rise in wages would lead to a large increase in care home bills which are already averaging about £5k a month. It maybe that care homes are one place we need immigrants, but we shouldn't let that small number disguise the 650,000 we invite every year. The big cost of care homes are partly 24 hour 7 day care, but also the lease price on very large and desirable buildings. Most of which are not owned by the care home themselves. |
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Post by RedRum on Aug 7, 2024 17:14:32 GMT
The 'grown ups' in the room appear to be the Muslims, offering 'refreshments' to the rioters after seeking permission from the police, of course.
Liverpool Imam defuses far-right protests – with food, drinks, and hugs
In the face of sweeping far-right protests, the people of Liverpool - and one particular Imam - have just shown us all the way forward.
Amid a wave of violence protests blighting the UK this week, the light at the end of the tunnel has shone bright in Liverpool overnight. One local Imam interacted with far-right demonstrators – even offering them food and drinks in the midst of the chaos.
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Post by Orac on Aug 7, 2024 17:21:08 GMT
Harder than one might think Actually I do agree that it isn't easy. There are reasons why we have such high levels of immigration it is just that no one is willing to have a honest discussion about the pros and cons. It's a bit like the alledged 20bn black hole (alledged in that both parties probably knew full well there was a massive black hole) that both parties kept stum about during the election. They (the elite) just do what they want and then are disengenous about the situation A recent Lizz truss interview suggests the treasury outsourced budget people have essentially placed a bomb around the whole issue. Reading between the lines, the threat is to dismantle your administration with budget forecasts if you touch it My own view is the whole thing has become an international criminal operation that extends into government |
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Post by Orac on Aug 7, 2024 17:22:56 GMT
Up to 60% of the cost of running care homes is staff. Currently most care workers are on or near minimum wage. I suspect you would have to double that wage to make it attractive to most British workers. A rise in wages would lead to a large increase in care home bills which are already averaging about £5k a month. It maybe that care homes are one place we need immigrants, but we shouldn't let that small number disguise the 650,000 we invite every year. The big cost of care homes are partly 24 hour 7 day care, but also the lease price on very large and desirable buildings. Most of which are not owned by the care home themselves. Temporary workers with temporary visas. |
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Post by AvonCalling on Aug 7, 2024 17:31:45 GMT
Asylum seekers numbers are very small compared to invited migrants. If that’s what’s worrying people, stop inviting them — or is that not possible…? do you think importing low skilled cheap workers is the solution to this problem for a minority of people given the costs are born by everyone? |
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Post by AvonCalling on Aug 7, 2024 17:35:05 GMT
Actually I do agree that it isn't easy. There are reasons why we have such high levels of immigration it is just that no one is willing to have a honest discussion about the pros and cons. It's a bit like the alledged 20bn black hole (alledged in that both parties probably knew full well there was a massive black hole) that both parties kept stum about during the election. They (the elite) just do what they want and then are disengenous about the situation A recent Lizz truss interview suggests the treasury outsourced budget people have essentially placed a bomb around the whole issue. Reading between the lines, the threat is to dismantle your administration with budget forecasts if you touch it My own view is the whole thing has become an international criminal operation that extends into government Has the stink of refusing to accept her own shortcomings and blaming them on others. |
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Post by AvonCalling on Aug 7, 2024 17:36:30 GMT
I was trying to be funny 😁 Beg pardon. I should have used an emoji to make it clear |
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