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Post by Zany on Aug 29, 2024 18:45:24 GMT
Polls show that for periods of time they did want it, just like polls show for periods of time people wanted Brexit and then Remain, what happened to changing your mind as fanatical Remoaners lectured us about for years in turn? And if I use the phrase 'double standards' I'll get accused of some absurd thought crime and must be spreading defamation and disinfo etc etc That's why I rely on the polls for indication. Shame you don't.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2024 19:01:43 GMT
Of course. I must be spreading disinfo by factually stating that for a period of time they had changed their minds. Keep it up, as you folks do on many threads on here slating the Scots and even crashing the Stonehenge thread, saying everything is improved by the English touch  You'll drive them to independence fast enough, don't let me stop you ! |
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Post by Steve on Aug 29, 2024 19:08:05 GMT
Of course. I must be spreading disinfo by factually stating that for a period of time they had changed their minds. Keep it up, as you folks do on many threads on here slating the Scots and even crashing the Stonehenge thread, saying everything is improved by the English touch You'll drive them to independence fast enough, don't let me stop you !  Actually defending the rights of the MAJORITY of Scots is anything but 'slating the Scots' |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2024 19:09:07 GMT
Of course. I must be spreading disinfo by factually stating that for a period of time they had changed their minds. Keep it up, as you folks do on many threads on here slating the Scots and even crashing the Stonehenge thread, saying everything is improved by the English touch You'll drive them to independence fast enough, don't let me stop you ! Actually defending the rights of the MAJORITY of Scots is anything but 'slating the Scots' Oh how brave and noble, defending the rights of the majority of the Scots and not slating them, but knowing what's best for them |
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Post by Zany on Aug 29, 2024 19:09:48 GMT
Of course. I must be spreading disinfo by factually stating that for a period of time they had changed their minds. Keep it up, as you folks do on many threads on here slating the Scots and even crashing the Stonehenge thread, saying everything is improved by the English touch You'll drive them to independence fast enough, don't let me stop you ! Facts are facts Borg. For a short time in 2020 the polls say they wanted to leave. The other 4 years in the poll they wanted to stay.. You be as rude as you like, you don't change that! |
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Post by Steve on Aug 29, 2024 19:18:43 GMT
Actually defending the rights of the MAJORITY of Scots is anything but 'slating the Scots' Oh how brave and noble, defending the rights of the majority of the Scots and not slating them, but knowing what's best for them Well I don't know what's best for them but I do know letting a vexatious minority impose its will on a majority would be a bad thing. And it does seem to be a 'No Shit Sherlock' that having yet another vote on the issue would be divisive and harm the Scottish economy through the resulting uncertainty so it's not something to idly lapse into over a whim when the polls say it's not needed. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2024 19:31:54 GMT
Of course. I must be spreading disinfo by factually stating that for a period of time they had changed their minds. Keep it up, as you folks do on many threads on here slating the Scots and even crashing the Stonehenge thread, saying everything is improved by the English touch You'll drive them to independence fast enough, don't let me stop you ! Facts are facts Borg. For a short time in 2020 the polls say they wanted to leave. The other 4 years in the poll they wanted to stay.. You be as rude as you like, you don't change that! Rude is attacking threads with trolling slating the Scots and all the other things posted to me on here. I'm just returning the favour that's been dished out to me. I've stated quite plainly that they changed their minds and were denied a vote at the time. What's counter factual about that please? Explain. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2024 19:33:41 GMT
Oh how brave and noble, defending the rights of the majority of the Scots and not slating them, but knowing what's best for them Well I don't know what's best for them but I do know letting a vexatious minority impose its will on a majority would be a bad thing. And it does seem to be a 'No Shit Sherlock' that having yet another vote on the issue would be divisive and harm the Scottish economy through the resulting uncertainty so it's not something to idly lapse into over a whim when the polls say it's not needed. Of course ^ And a new Brexit referendum wouldn't have the same effect on England would it? But if I say double standards I'll be accused of all kinds of nasty things and probably be told I'm committing some illegal act next as the topping on top I don't think calling your opponents "a vexatious minority" is very nice myself. They are a vexatious minority are they the Scottish independence supporters? Have you ever seen what Rangers fans are like and the Orangemen who were fervently for your side of the issue? Maybe a rain check would be good at this point |
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Post by Zany on Aug 29, 2024 19:43:38 GMT
Facts are facts Borg. For a short time in 2020 the polls say they wanted to leave. The other 4 years in the poll they wanted to stay.. You be as rude as you like, you don't change that! Rude is attacking threads with trolling slating the Scots and all the other things posted to me on here. I'm just returning the favour that's been dished out to me. I've stated quite plainly that they changed their minds and were denied a vote at the time. What's counter factual about that please? Explain. Rude is rude whoever does it. And you mean they didn't get a vote at exactly the right time to suit you, that's lucky, the people of Scotland keep saying no ever since the end of December 2020. |
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Post by Steve on Aug 29, 2024 19:48:20 GMT
Well I don't know what's best for them but I do know letting a vexatious minority impose its will on a majority would be a bad thing. And it does seem to be a 'No Shit Sherlock' that having yet another vote on the issue would be divisive and harm the Scottish economy through the resulting uncertainty so it's not something to idly lapse into over a whim when the polls say it's not needed. Of course ^ And a new Brexit referendum wouldn't have the same effect on England would it? But if I say double standards I'll be accused of all kinds of nasty things and probably be told I'm committing some illegal act next as the topping on top I don't think calling your opponents "a vexatious minority" is very nice myself. They are a vexatious minority are they the Scottish independence supporters? Have you ever seen what Rangers fans are like and the Orangemen who were fervently for your side of the issue? Maybe a rain check would be good at this point The one with double standards here is you. Why you bring up the Brexit referemndum in some malicious attack on me is deplorable. That referendum had record breaking illegality during the campaign period leading to the vote. There was no such in the Scottish referendum and had there been I would have called for a rerun of that - BUT THERE WAS NOT. The fact is Scots Nats lost a fair fight. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2024 19:53:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2024 19:56:32 GMT
Of course ^ And a new Brexit referendum wouldn't have the same effect on England would it? But if I say double standards I'll be accused of all kinds of nasty things and probably be told I'm committing some illegal act next as the topping on top I don't think calling your opponents "a vexatious minority" is very nice myself. They are a vexatious minority are they the Scottish independence supporters? Have you ever seen what Rangers fans are like and the Orangemen who were fervently for your side of the issue? Maybe a rain check would be good at this point The one with double standards here is you. Why you bring up the Brexit referemndum in some malicious attack on me is deplorable. That referendum had record breaking illegality during the campaign period leading to the vote. There was no such in the Scottish referendum and had there been I would have called for a rerun of that - BUT THERE WAS NOT. The fact is Scots Nats lost a fair fight. Bro, a "malicious attack" = saying you're for a new Brexit referendum and using that as a way to highlight your select hypocrisy on this issue?? Btw, why are you typing in caps lock now? Calm down, it's just a forum - you're taking this way too seriously. If I wanted to "attack" you, you would know about it. This is just me saying you're wrong about something. Try to refute the actual data above - the real graphs from Politico and the Wiki graph if able You've not proven "record breaking illegality" in Brexit, I've highlighted the similar failures in both the Scot indyref and Brexit using facts: 1) Russian interference 2) Lack of receipts and fines for both sides in the campaign etc etc, you've not refuted any of that and instead seek to say I'm "personally attacking" you as a dodge |
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Post by Zany on Aug 29, 2024 20:05:38 GMT
I called you rude because you were rude to me. Not in my capacity as a mod ( That has a very different level of non acceptance) Not sure why you've included this blurry poll that tells the same story as my one. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2024 20:16:05 GMT
In what universe do those graphs tell the same story as your one? There are several times you've been rude to me on here, when I haven't been rude to you, so it's not one way is it?
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Post by Steve on Aug 29, 2024 20:25:25 GMT
The one with double standards here is you. Why you bring up the Brexit referemndum in some malicious attack on me is deplorable. That referendum had record breaking illegality during the campaign period leading to the vote. There was no such in the Scottish referendum and had there been I would have called for a rerun of that - BUT THERE WAS NOT. The fact is Scots Nats lost a fair fight. Bro, a "malicious attack" = saying you're for a new Brexit referendum and using that as a way to highlight your select hypocrisy on this issue?? Btw, why are you typing in caps lock now? Calm down, it's just a forum - you're taking this way too seriously. If I wanted to "attack" you, you would know about it. This is just me saying you're wrong about something. Try to refute the actual data above - the real graphs from Politico and the Wiki graph if able You've not proven "record breaking illegality" in Brexit, I've highlighted the similar failures in both the Scot indyref and Brexit using facts: 1) Russian interference 2) Lack of receipts and fines for both sides in the campaign etc etc, you've not refuted any of that and instead seek to say I'm "personally attacking" you as a dodge More complete BS ^ Does any serious poster want to back any of it? |
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