Scot Indy Polling

Ok, have it your way, you've never accused anyone on here of illiteracy or lacking reading comprehension, never accused people on here of supporting terrorism

I'll let you have the last word

I dont think there is anything of note , or anything worth talking about , in Scottish politics at the minute.

 Many on here , for example , think the snp are a threat to the British state , while many of us Scots think they are a barrier to Scotlands independence. Labour at the minute look like they might lead a minority government in scotland from 2026 , with the snp vote collapsing , but if the British believe that is the end of scot indy ,then clearly lthey aren't paying attention. 

 Ive been personally concerned about the snp and their direction since around 2017. Many things clearly aren't right , conspiracy theories about infiltration by the brit state , etc etc abound.

 Going to be interesting as ever , watching how things enfold. We have a Scottish parliament in disarray , and a wider uk state going down the shitter at an ever alarming rate. 52 days of a starmer government at Westminster , and we are told things will only get worse , such is the guys lack of vision.

One thing I am surprised about is the European situation. No clear moves have been made to rejoin , or retie the uk back into the EU. On top of that , im reading about the tories Freeport's zones across the uk , and how labour enthusiastically endorse them , with the clear implication they are against eu rules , and a barrier to rejoining. 

Couple that with hamstrung devolved governments , the labour lackeys in Cardiff , and the boring swinney administration in Edinburgh , and the corpse of brittannia keeps twitching on . For how long though?

Will Northern Ireland be the first part of the current uk to break this daze that we all seem to be in with a border poll? 

 

 

eh? You accuse me of wishful thinking then indulge in your own version .

 The Scottish people didnt switch from the snp to labour. The snp vote largely sat at home , with one of the lowest turnout outs in history , if not the lowest , and labour took 35 % of the vote. 8 /10 Scots didnt vote labour .

 Labour took the most Scottish westminster seats , without a doubt , but im failing to see any great support or return to business as normal for labour in scotland. More like as I said up the thread its disillusionment with the new snp , and their lack of movement on the scot indy issue .

 Starmers popualr vote hasn't come anywhere near the amount taken by past labour leaders in scotland from the seventies to the 2010 election. Gordon browns losing vote in 2010 , was nearly two hundred thousand ahead of starmer "homecoming vicotory " in his Scottish fiefdom.

 Dont confuse lack of support for the snp , with a return of support to labour. The majority of labours gains were at the expense of their fellow unionists in scotland , rather than a large movement of indy supporters returning to the union.

dont claim that we switched from the snp to labour then , when that isnt what happened. if labour can only win when we stay at home , it doesn't bode well for the future dont you think ?

if 8 / 10 people in scotland and the wider uk didnt vote labour , then clearly there is a large lack of support for them. its not a difficult concept to accept.

There is a difference between popular support , and what happened in the general election , where the uks dodgy electoral system gave labour one of the most disjointed landslide in uk history.



im not biased against england. I think you are very thin skinned ,and if you weren't , you would see im biased against the uk. England is a small country which makes up 40 % of these islands. I support English independence . probably more than you do .

no one takes these people seriously though who demand a second Brexit ref , but not a second one for you jock. I mean look how jo Swinson was laughed out of scotland when she took that stance for the liberals?

No political party is going to be taken seriously in or out of scotland that goes begging to London for another scot indy referendum. You dont beg for independence , you take it.

 While we have the new snp in charge though , the union is safe.  Does honest John swinney , the devolutionist , or cosy feet Pete wishart , or Angus Robertson etc etc look like radical independence politicians out to free scotland and her people?

 the irish had de Valera , connoly and collins . titans of their day. Probably still the most charismatic and intelligent politician scotland has today is Alec Salmond , with his warts and all.

 I personally dont think there will be another referendum as the British have learned their lesson on giving the plebs democracy. They got a fright in 2014 , and Brexit pushed them over the edge in 2016.

 I hink had a party stood on a mandate last general election to immediately dissolve the union if they won the majority of seats and votes , then I think such an independence party would have won a landslide.

 Most mainstream Scots now are sick to the back teeth off Brexit Britain , and their two cheeks of the same arse party. while the current snp though stay as they are , nothing much is going to change anytime soon.

 I think the next part of the current uk to leave will be Northern Ireland , in the slow motion car crash that has been happening over the last century.