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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2024 22:59:54 GMT
Looking at the most recent polling via Wiki: Link
Date(s) conducted
| Polling organisation/client | Sample size | Should Scotland be an independent country? (Yes/No/Undecided) | Lead | | 26-27 Jun 2024 | Redfield and Wilton | 1,200
| 46% 48% 6% | 2% | | 24-26 Jun 2024 | Norstat/The Sunday Times
| 1,258 | 47% 47% 6% | Tied |
Well within the margin for error at 2%, also tied. And more recently the highly reliable (compared to the other pollsters listed on that Wiki page) ipsos: Polls using the 2014 referendum question Date(s) conducted Polling organisation/client Sample size Should Scotland be an independent country? Lead Yes No 3-9 Jun 2024 Ipsos 1,150 49% 47% 4% 2% |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2024 17:36:27 GMT
Scottish independence as an issue is not dead, however much Labour and others like to pretend it to be. Support for the SNP is not the same thing as support for independence. The SNP merely looked like the party most likely to deliver it for a while. But corruption scandals and other governing failures have dented support for it quite severely. This does not equate to a decline in support for independence, however, as polling continues to show.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2024 17:45:30 GMT
All true. And Alba are not the answer either; they are an amoral, right-wing populist corrupt party that are ten times worse than the SNP
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Post by vinny on Jul 14, 2024 18:47:09 GMT
It is dead, the advocates of it are unelectable crooks and racists.
Best thing to do would be to reform the UK instead.
Replace the Barnett Formula with means testing.
Replace FPTP with PR.
Replace the Lords with a senate.
Replace the current mess that is devolution.
Give local councils powers regarding public health and education spending as well as policing.
And have local referendums when local government wants to develop land.
Have central government devote most of their focus on UK wide taxation, foreign policy and defence.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2024 18:59:02 GMT
You should do most of that AND if the Scots want indyref, give them it
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Post by patman post on Aug 3, 2024 15:33:46 GMT
Scottish independence as an issue is not dead, however much Labour and others like to pretend it to be. Support for the SNP is not the same thing as support for independence. The SNP merely looked like the party most likely to deliver it for a while. But corruption scandals and other governing failures have dented support for it quite severely. This does not equate to a decline in support for independence, however, as polling continues to show. Can’t say I see why Scots wouldn’t want to separate themselves from the destruction, rioting and violence that’s afflicting towns and cities across England — especially as many see immigration as a positive for Scotland… |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 15:38:47 GMT
They've been subjugated by the British government for such a long time now, the McCrone report makes grim reading. It's just unfair and unreasonable to hold them back any longer, as it is with the Norn Irish when a clear majority elected Sinn Fein and very likely want reunification and have signalled such by electing them.
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Post by Steve on Aug 3, 2024 16:07:53 GMT
They've been subjugated by the British government for such a long time now, the McCrone report makes grim reading. It's just unfair and unreasonable to hold them back any longer, as it is with the Norn Irish when a clear majority elected Sinn Fein and very likely want reunification and have signalled such by electing them. The McRone report was written in 1974 The 2024 General Election shows much more clearly where current opinion lies in Scotland. And it ain't an endoresement for independence. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 16:13:13 GMT
Best to look at trends and the wanes in support for Scot indy going all the way back until polling begun, it hasn't died and will likely come back in short order. It isn't something that happens overnight.
The McCrone report adequately illustrates British (specifically the English govt) manipulation, deceit and corruption at its finest, I wouldn't want to be seen endorsing that
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Post by Steve on Aug 3, 2024 16:31:09 GMT
As of 1974
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 16:42:32 GMT
And every year since
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Post by Steve on Aug 3, 2024 17:26:15 GMT
So you say but the McCrone report is no evidence of that. Scottish Nationalism had its chance especially when Sturgeon was at her peak, the Tories were in power, the Brexit issue was sore and North Sea Oil was booming. None of those apply now and they've just lost their one World Class top sports figure. It'll never go away but its chance of being a majority any time soon are slim. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 17:31:03 GMT
If you want to be a Brit Nat who wants to desperately cling onto the last vestiges of Empire, like a Brexiter, you may feel free to do so - others look at facts and history and come to their own conclusions
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Post by Zany on Aug 4, 2024 8:00:36 GMT
Indeed 60-70% of Scots would like to re-join the EU.
It plays a large part in the bid for independence from Brexit Empire England.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2024 6:43:10 GMT
Watch this 
 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_Scottish_independenceWhat's the big idea then? By blocking them from having a ref when things are going south, they should come round to the idea of being subjugated by England when things are a bit better? And when PMs change again and the pendulum swings back to the English nut-nuts who are fruitier than a nut bar in the Tories? Why should they be subjugated to such again? |
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