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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2024 6:45:07 GMT
For a sustained period there was over 11%+ support for Indy, denied by the renegades at Wastemonster during Boris's disastrous COVID tyranny, even Matt Lucas didn't do justice to how much of a bumble that was by the bumbler in chief..
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Post by Steve on Aug 22, 2024 9:27:49 GMT
For a sustained period there was over 11%+ support for Indy, denied by the renegades at Wastemonster during Boris's disastrous COVID tyranny, even Matt Lucas didn't do justice to how much of a bumble that was by the bumbler in chief.. Is a single poll taken over 5 days 'a sustained period' Not in my book. Anyway your own link shows for a true sustained period the majority has been AGAINST independence  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2024 12:53:01 GMT
IOW, you yourself selectively quote periods (months in 2023 and 4) when it was against indyref as a good reason not to run one?
If there's any hint of a doubt, it should be rerun, period, isn't that what hardcore Remainers say?
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Post by Steve on Aug 22, 2024 21:20:52 GMT
IOW, you yourself selectively quote periods (months in 2023 and 4) when it was against indyref as a good reason not to run one? If there's any hint of a doubt, it should be rerun, period, isn't that what hardcore Remainers say? No because there was no record breaking illegality in the 2014 Scottish referendum and there has been no electoral mandate since to rerun it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2024 7:07:20 GMT
Double standards at their finest
Did the In campaign also not break the law and get fined for it in 2016?
In the Scot Indy campaign, the No side got fined for breaking spending limits too and there was apparently proof ballots were altered. Using your own logic, that means it should be rerun
These are Brit Nat double standards at their absolute worst
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Post by Steve on Aug 23, 2024 7:53:23 GMT
Double standards at their finest Did the In campaign also not break the law and get fined for it in 2016? . . No, they lost a few receipts If you're going to accuse other posters of dishonesty best you get your facts straight |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2024 8:06:36 GMT
And you actually buy that excuse. That they "lost receipts".
I'm sorry but that's hilarious
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2024 8:08:25 GMT
By the way, I accused you of double standards not dishonesty, it's not the same thing once again..
And you really are adopting double standards: when your favoured campaign break those rules it's "lost receipts" - when others do it it's "record breaking illegality", that's my point
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Post by Steve on Aug 23, 2024 9:30:56 GMT
I suggest you read the actual case. I suggest you think twice of accusing people of double standards as it very much is impugning them of not honestly applying same standards to different cases.
And the point at hand is there was no record breaking electoral fraud at the 2014 Scot independence referendum. There is no reason to seek it being rerun until such time as a clear majority of Scot is seen to favour independence. As the last election and recent polls show that very much does not pertain.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2024 14:15:20 GMT
How does double standards imply dishonesty? I never said you lied about a thing, I said you have double standards in that you are "outraged" about one thing and not another. Different things. I'm just accusing you of extreme bias
There was clear fraud in the Scot indy ref, it's just that you think "record breaking illegality" only applies to the Brexit ref and only one way when both sides cheated
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Post by Steve on Aug 23, 2024 18:53:09 GMT
How does double standards imply dishonesty? I never said you lied about a thing, I said you have double standards in that you are "outraged" about one thing and not another. Different things. I'm just accusing you of extreme bias There was clear fraud in the Scot indy ref, it's just that you think "record breaking illegality" only applies to the Brexit ref and only one way when both sides cheated More charmless playing the man not the ball ^ Go on tell us what this 'clear fraud in the Scot indy ref' was and how it supposedly broke the rules. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2024 18:56:46 GMT
How does double standards imply dishonesty? I never said you lied about a thing, I said you have double standards in that you are "outraged" about one thing and not another. Different things. I'm just accusing you of extreme bias There was clear fraud in the Scot indy ref, it's just that you think "record breaking illegality" only applies to the Brexit ref and only one way when both sides cheated More charmless playing the man not the ball ^ Go on tell us what this 'clear fraud in the Scot indy ref' was and how it supposedly broke the rules. No worries Steve, when it comes to charmlessness, accusing others of supporting terrorism is about as charming as it gets - as on JSO threads here I'm pretty sure I already linked evidence here that rules were broken in the Scot indy ref. Did you not read the thread? |
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Post by Steve on Aug 23, 2024 20:01:26 GMT
Well you'll find it easy to restate that then won't you. Please can you as google isn't finding anything
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2024 20:15:42 GMT
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Post by Steve on Aug 23, 2024 20:43:00 GMT
Yes something very familiar - you were wrong and not admitting it.
No illegality of any note in the Scottish Indy referendum of 2014. Get over it and maybe read your first link word by word. Seems you've fallen for those very Russian sourced false stories.
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