Steve
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Post by Steve on Jul 21, 2024 15:55:37 GMT
Education must be so bad in Scotland if you don't understand 'Experimental estimated'
Hi you two. All is Ok but watch this doesn't turn into a naah naah thread.
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Post by Zany on Jul 21, 2024 16:13:53 GMT
I'm questioning how much of Scotland's current exports are North sea gas. And obviously what happens to that income as we switch away from fossil fuels. Do you think climate change is not an issue for the peoples of Scotland. Incidentally Scotland has huge potential for producing renewable energy. I was hoping for your figures to save protracted discussion about the quality of mine. But I don't think you represent the majority of Scots in this. I agree with you of phasing out gas, we are going to need it for a while yet and some forever. I would like us to restrict UK gas to use in the UK, enough to meet our needs without adding to the global supply. I think you are already out voted on this one. How so?, Scotland's topography remains the same however its political landscape changes.
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Post by Zany on Jul 21, 2024 16:24:03 GMT
Incidentally Scotland has huge potential for producing renewable energy. sorry ive just re read this , and you sound quite arrogant and condescending here dont you zany? You are telling me , a scot , that my country has the potential to massively benefit your country England via our renewables ? After your government has leeched our oil and gas , now you want to move onto our renewables? Every post you make , it's clear England is massively over reliant on the Scottish cash cow ,and we can see why you are desperate to hold onto us. I see your new labour parties claims about green energy , and GB energy in particular are being scrutinised and taken apart bit by bit. www.businessforscotland.com/will_gb_energy_achieve_what_the_labour_government_has_promised_5_questions_answered Conclusion
GB Energy is not going to deliver the new UK government's election promises:
It will not enable Scotland to fulfill its potential as a renewable energy powerhouse It will do little or nothing to address the injustice that Scottish households and businesses pay the highest energy bills in Europe whilst Scotland is producing so much cheap renewable electricity. GB Energy is another example of the UK government trying to stamp a Union flag on Scottish resources and call them British. Another example of Scotland's energy potential and the good it could do Scotland being diluted by this broken union. Link is blocked, but doesn't look neutral seeing as the opening picture states This is our power not your power. You probably don't remember (being a busy man) but Scotland voted to remain in the UK about 10 years ago. And the polls show little change in opinion on that.
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Post by Zany on Jul 21, 2024 16:32:20 GMT
Incidentally Scotland has huge potential for producing renewable energy. sorry ive just re read this , and you sound quite arrogant and condescending here dont you zany? You are telling me , a scot , that my country has the potential to massively benefit your country England via our renewables ? After your government has leeched our oil and gas , now you want to move onto our renewables? Every post you make , it's clear England is massively over reliant on the Scottish cash cow ,and we can see why you are desperate to hold onto us. I see your new labour parties claims about green energy , and GB energy in particular are being scrutinised and taken apart bit by bit. www.businessforscotland.com/will_gb_energy_achieve_what_the_labour_government_has_promised_5_questions_answered Conclusion
GB Energy is not going to deliver the new UK government's election promises:
It will not enable Scotland to fulfill its potential as a renewable energy powerhouse It will do little or nothing to address the injustice that Scottish households and businesses pay the highest energy bills in Europe whilst Scotland is producing so much cheap renewable electricity. GB Energy is another example of the UK government trying to stamp a Union flag on Scottish resources and call them British. Another example of Scotland's energy potential and the good it could do Scotland being diluted by this broken union. I sound like someone saying Scotland has huge potential to produce renewable energy. The rest is in your head. If I say Morocco has huge potential to produce solar energy it does not imply I think that energy should be taken by England. However at this time Scotland is part of the UK just as Surrey is and so the spoils are shared. It is not necessary for you to persuade me to give Scotland independence I have no vote on that. You must persuade the Scots, but you failed to do so.
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Post by Amadan on Jul 21, 2024 17:12:24 GMT
Education must be so bad in Scotland if you don't understand 'Experimental estimated' Hi you two. All is Ok but watch this doesn't turn into a naah naah thread. oh dear. You are now reduced to not using the quote tags in hope i dont read your latest deflection. It's a simple civilised question Steve. Prompted by your contradictory links. I wil try once more. Can you tell me did scotland run an overall trade deficit , or did we have a trade surplus in 2021. ? Its not a trick question Steve.
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Post by Amadan on Jul 21, 2024 17:16:21 GMT
I was hoping for your figures to save protracted discussion about the quality of mine. But I don't think you represent the majority of Scots in this. I agree with you of phasing out gas, we are going to need it for a while yet and some forever. I would like us to restrict UK gas to use in the UK, enough to meet our needs without adding to the global supply. I think you are already out voted on this one. How so?, Scotland's topography remains the same however its political landscape changes. zany im no pedant , but it doesn't look great when a moderator of a site cant even properly use the sites quote tags. Almost 60% of Scots think the UK Government was right to grant new oil and gas licences in UK waters.
A Survation poll for advisory firm True North found 58% agree with the decision, while 21% disagree
www.insider.co.uk/news/most-scots-support-decision-grant-32000414
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Post by Amadan on Jul 21, 2024 17:17:52 GMT
sorry ive just re read this , and you sound quite arrogant and condescending here dont you zany? You are telling me , a scot , that my country has the potential to massively benefit your country England via our renewables ? After your government has leeched our oil and gas , now you want to move onto our renewables? Every post you make , it's clear England is massively over reliant on the Scottish cash cow ,and we can see why you are desperate to hold onto us. I see your new labour parties claims about green energy , and GB energy in particular are being scrutinised and taken apart bit by bit. www.businessforscotland.com/will_gb_energy_achieve_what_the_labour_government_has_promised_5_questions_answered Conclusion
GB Energy is not going to deliver the new UK government's election promises:
It will not enable Scotland to fulfill its potential as a renewable energy powerhouse It will do little or nothing to address the injustice that Scottish households and businesses pay the highest energy bills in Europe whilst Scotland is producing so much cheap renewable electricity. GB Energy is another example of the UK government trying to stamp a Union flag on Scottish resources and call them British. Another example of Scotland's energy potential and the good it could do Scotland being diluted by this broken union. Link is blocked, but doesn't look neutral seeing as the opening picture states This is our power not your power. You probably don't remember (being a busy man) but Scotland voted to remain in the UK about 10 years ago. And the polls show little change in opinion on that. doesn't matter. The gist of the article has been quoted for you. Its on the Business for Scotland site. www.businessforscotland.com
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Post by Amadan on Jul 21, 2024 17:20:35 GMT
sorry ive just re read this , and you sound quite arrogant and condescending here dont you zany? You are telling me , a scot , that my country has the potential to massively benefit your country England via our renewables ? After your government has leeched our oil and gas , now you want to move onto our renewables? Every post you make , it's clear England is massively over reliant on the Scottish cash cow ,and we can see why you are desperate to hold onto us. I see your new labour parties claims about green energy , and GB energy in particular are being scrutinised and taken apart bit by bit. www.businessforscotland.com/will_gb_energy_achieve_what_the_labour_government_has_promised_5_questions_answered Conclusion
GB Energy is not going to deliver the new UK government's election promises:
It will not enable Scotland to fulfill its potential as a renewable energy powerhouse It will do little or nothing to address the injustice that Scottish households and businesses pay the highest energy bills in Europe whilst Scotland is producing so much cheap renewable electricity. GB Energy is another example of the UK government trying to stamp a Union flag on Scottish resources and call them British. Another example of Scotland's energy potential and the good it could do Scotland being diluted by this broken union. I sound like someone saying Scotland has huge potential to produce renewable energy. The rest is in your head. If I say Morocco has huge potential to produce solar energy it does not imply I think that energy should be taken by England. However at this time Scotland is part of the UK just as Surrey is and so the spoils are shared. It is not necessary for you to persuade me to give Scotland independence I have no vote on that. You must persuade the Scots, but you failed to do so. eh? We know scotland has huge potential to produce renewable energy .On numerous occasions in recent years , we have produced enough renewable energy to power the whole of scotland and still have enough left over to export. Whitelees wind farm south of Glasgow was once the biggest onshore wind farm in the world. However , that wasnt my point. Can you tell me how scotland will benefit from renewable energy when energy as part of the uk is a reserved matter ?
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Steve
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Post by Steve on Jul 21, 2024 17:21:56 GMT
Education must be so bad in Scotland if you don't understand 'Experimental estimated' Hi you two. All is Ok but watch this doesn't turn into a naah naah thread. oh dear. You are now reduced to not using the quote tags in hope i dont read your latest deflection. It's a simple civilised question Steve. Prompted by your contradictory links. I wil try once more. Can you tell me did scotland run an overall trade deficit , or did we have a trade surplus in 2021. ? Its not a trick question Steve. As I told you we don't know. But awkwardly for you that Statista link showing a persistent trade deficit is quoting the Scottish government as its source. How anyone can quote solid figures for Scotland's trade balance when there is an open friction free border between Scotland and England is somewhat hard to believe.
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Post by Zany on Jul 21, 2024 17:30:42 GMT
Education must be so bad in Scotland if you don't understand 'Experimental estimated' Hi you two. All is Ok but watch this doesn't turn into a naah naah thread. oh dear. You are now reduced to not using the quote tags in hope i dont read your latest deflection. It's a simple civilised question Steve. Prompted by your contradictory links. I wil try once more. Can you tell me did scotland run an overall trade deficit , or did we have a trade surplus in 2021. ? Its not a trick question Steve. It was a MOD notice. Keep the insults out. I tried to be polite.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 17:31:01 GMT
Scotland has sent more to England throughout its history than the other way round, the English insist that Scotland is the one 'sucking at the teat' of Westminster, you couldn't make it up, then people become abusive against all Scots as if they are the second-class citizens, again, you couldn't make it up could you?
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Post by Amadan on Jul 21, 2024 17:31:39 GMT
oh dear. You are now reduced to not using the quote tags in hope i dont read your latest deflection. It's a simple civilised question Steve. Prompted by your contradictory links. I wil try once more. Can you tell me did scotland run an overall trade deficit , or did we have a trade surplus in 2021. ? Its not a trick question Steve. As I told you we don't know. you didnt say you dont know. You explicitly posted this on page 16... the Statista , or shall we call it the bullshista graph was apparently showing scotland had ran a trade deficit going back to 1998. You then posted the ons link which showed the opposite for the year 2021. are you now saying you dont even know what figures you are posting and claiming as evidence? dear me. golden rule Steve. Read link before making claim.
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Steve
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Post by Steve on Jul 21, 2024 17:33:46 GMT
I suggest you read that post of mine again
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Post by Amadan on Jul 21, 2024 17:34:20 GMT
oh dear. You are now reduced to not using the quote tags in hope i dont read your latest deflection. It's a simple civilised question Steve. Prompted by your contradictory links. I wil try once more. Can you tell me did scotland run an overall trade deficit , or did we have a trade surplus in 2021. ? Its not a trick question Steve. It was a MOD notice. Keep the insults out. I tried to be polite. I am trying to be polite . I know it was a mod notice. Im asking Steve a civil question about his contradictory links , and he cannot or will not give me a clear answer. surely this isnt being impolite ? Steve has clearly been completely dishonest. im simply asking was scotland in trade deficit , or trade surplus , in 2021? It's not a difficult question , but Steve appears to be wriggling and refusing to answer. including now laughable claiming he doesn't know.
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Post by Amadan on Jul 21, 2024 17:35:57 GMT
I suggest you read that post of mine again I have numerous times. Can you enlighten us , was scotland running a trade deficit or trade surplus in 2021? Claiming to not now know after initially claiming to have the answer on page 16 is also making you look rather foolish.
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