We should re-join the EU. No matter what the cost.

rubbish. The first wave of mass industrial decline in the uk  took place between 1964 and 1973  ,prior to eec  membership , the second between 1979 and 1989 prior to Maastricht.

There were many reasons for industrial decline , including the chinese making things for a bowl of rice a day while the uk was too expensive to manufacture.

I worked in the print industry for many years  , my wife has a print degree , and I can assure you technology , bigger machines doing colour jobs needing fewer men , the internet , outsourcing print work to Eastern Europe , India china , and much more was in large part the cause of decline in print rather than eu membership.

Thats one small part of manufacturing. you do talk some unmitigated tosh Vinny. 

I thought the uk three time begging to Join the old eec , and the French vetoing it  , was in large part to do with the uk empire collapsing and industrial decline. ?

That's not true in America and it works there. 

Not true, throughout the 60s we struggled with a balance of payments issue which briefly went positive after devaluation only to be crushed by the oil price crisis os the early 1970s

hello !!! vinny!!! scotland is a net exporter!!! England , whose balance upsets the uk balance , is a net importer. !!!

Scotland exports five times per head of population what England does . !!!!! after Brexit , Scotlands exports fell by 25 % !!!

planet earth to Vincent......brexit is bad for scotland , its bad for England , its bad for the uk !!!!!!!

All sounds good on paper, but with the Tories being as incompetent as they clearly were, you were never going to get the Brexit you pined for - not that it had much realistic chance of happening anyway

We await proof for any or all claims in your post BTW

Um with a Trump presidency on the horizon and an old fool about to shuffle off the stage I doubt the term America and it works

nice wee graph Steve , but how accurate is it?

Are you sure this isnt just some cherry picked figures lumping a large part of the uks massive trade deficit , which the European commission pointed out a decade ago , hit 4.4% of gdp and was the worst of any industrialised nation in the world?

For example , your wee graph has scotland running a trade deficit over the course of 2021. The ONS on the other hand said scotland ran a trade surplus in 2021 , Scotlands highest in five years. 


www.gov.scot/news/scottish-trade-outperforming-other-uk-nations/#:~:text=In%202021%20Scotland%20had%20the,in%20the%20five%20years%20measured 

 in this next article I will link to , from the LSE blog , no friend of Scottish indy , it points out scotland ran a trade surplus of £5 billion in 2018 ,( while the rest of the uk ran a trade deficit of nearly £135 billion.) Your wee graph says scotland ran a trade deficit .

 blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2021/02/04/indyref2-scottish-independence-would-be-2-3-times-more-costly-than-that-of-brexit-and-rejoining-the-eu-wouldnt-make-up-the-difference/ 

 in this next article , in the scotsman ,from a decade ago , it points out more of the same on how rUK relies heavily on Scottish exports ..... 

archive.is/CU3FR 

 So I would question the accuracy of your figures that appear to show scotland running a trade deficit , contrary to everything ive ever read , over the course of the last quarter of a century in your wee graph.

 While I appreciate Englands Brexit has hit Scotlands exports  exceptionally had over the last few years , especially in the food and drink sector , England , especially the south east of your country is where the massive problems lie.