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Post by borgr0 on Aug 3, 2024 16:53:41 GMT
Now tell us again how dishonest Farage was with his 350m a week lie And compare and contrast with Labour - they both do the same stuff, except you don't challenge one of them but challenge the other, double standards at their finest Have you been asleep these last years when the £350M sent to the EU claim was shown over and over again to be false? This is the best case of reading comprehension fail I've ever seen Where in my post did I say Farage wasn't dishonest? I said they both do the same stuff and said he committed a lie I can't be bothered explaining it to you if you don't get it. Maybe you should get some sleep..
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Post by Steve on Aug 3, 2024 17:12:30 GMT
You set the tone.
You also said, referring to Starmer: 'So if you say repeat something you know is untrue and then refuse to correct the record, that doesn't make one a liar?'
And your own link and your own quote of same shows he didn't repeat the claim
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Post by borgr0 on Aug 3, 2024 17:29:36 GMT
You set the tone. You also said, referring to Starmer: 'So if you say repeat something you know is untrue and then refuse to correct the record, that doesn't make one a liar?' And your own link and your own quote of same shows he didn't repeat the claim As far as personal insults and tone goes, who accused who of being like papasmurf? And the first accusations on here, as usual, didn't come from me towards you, it's really up to you if you want to be rude and dismissive, just expect it back that's all Starmer, nor anyone from Labour, despite reiterating the claim many, many times, has yet to correct the record despite being asked multi times No point restating the obvious, by your own standards - that makes them doubling down on a lie, it's the standard you used for Vote Leave (and rightly so as I've said for a long time despite dishonest insinuations that I'm saying Farage isn't a liar, never happened)
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Post by Steve on Aug 3, 2024 17:59:42 GMT
Actually had you cared to read that long ago post, I accused you of 'go figure' posting.
And your 'Starmer, nor anyone from Labour, despite reiterating the claim many, many times' is as written a false claim. You've woefully failed in this quest of yours to show Starmer is a liar.
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Post by borgr0 on Aug 3, 2024 18:44:49 GMT
It doesn't matter how many times you double down on a lie - you're still telling a lie and the proof linked shows it
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Post by Steve on Aug 3, 2024 22:08:23 GMT
It doesn't matter how many times you double down on a lie - you're still telling a lie and the proof linked shows it oh the irony
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Post by borgr0 on Aug 4, 2024 1:02:39 GMT
And spamming insulting gibberish to make up for your obvious lies doesn't help either
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 4, 2024 1:52:54 GMT
Farage was the inventor of the 'send £350M to the EU a week' lie, No. He didn't agree with it and said he wouldn't have used it.
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 4, 2024 1:54:23 GMT
It doesn't matter how many times you double down on a lie - you're still telling a lie and the proof linked shows it So not only do you need Specsavers you need remedial English lessons Let's not lower the tone to that of The Other Place.
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Post by Zany on Aug 4, 2024 7:54:17 GMT
Oh goodness, it has to be copied and pasted too Now read it again tracing each word with your index finger and this time aloud. Starmer only said it once. IE not repeated by him. Now read the very last sentence. Does it say the claim was false? No, it says it's hard to beleive. For clarity Steve. If someone says something they believe is true, is then told its not true, but refuses to correct what they said. Is that lying or not?
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Post by Steve on Aug 4, 2024 9:19:29 GMT
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Post by Steve on Aug 4, 2024 9:21:37 GMT
Now read it again tracing each word with your index finger and this time aloud. Starmer only said it once. IE not repeated by him. Now read the very last sentence. Does it say the claim was false? No, it says it's hard to beleive. For clarity Steve. If someone says something they believe is true, is then told its not true, but refuses to correct what they said. Is that lying or not? No A lie exists at the point of utterance or writing. And anyway Borg is posting crap. He simply cannot read plain English. Full Fact don't say it's a lie, they say it's questionable and they clearly don't say he repeated it.
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Post by Steve on Aug 4, 2024 9:22:06 GMT
And spamming insulting gibberish to make up for your obvious lies doesn't help either Blocked
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Post by Zany on Aug 4, 2024 9:43:05 GMT
For clarity Steve. If someone says something they believe is true, is then told its not true, but refuses to correct what they said. Is that lying or not? No A lie exists at the point of utterance or writing. And anyway Borg is posting crap. He simply cannot read plain English. Full Fact don't say it's a lie, they say it's questionable and they clearly don't say he repeated it. Full fact say the figure is too high and asked Sir Kier to give them information on how it was calculated. He has not done so. So if I say average earnings in this country are £35,000 per annum and you say that figure is too high and ask me for evidence to support my claim. So long as I refuse to answer I'm not lying?
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Post by Zany on Aug 4, 2024 9:45:56 GMT
And spamming insulting gibberish to make up for your obvious lies doesn't help either Blocked And you feel Borg0 needs blocking. Not much of an argument here Steve.
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