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Post by Orac on Sept 19, 2024 17:38:01 GMT
Every now and then Zany does a little advert for world communism
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Post by Saint on Sept 19, 2024 20:20:32 GMT
Every now and then Zany does a little advert for world communism You're just jealous because somebody else is predicting the end of the world for a change. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2024 22:12:27 GMT
Every now and then Zany does a little advert for world communism Presumably your definition of "world communism" includes centrist businessmen like Zany now. I can understand you not liking communism. But to critique it with intelligence you do need to actually understand what communism is |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2024 22:14:19 GMT
Every now and then Zany does a little advert for world communism You're just jealous because somebody else is predicting the end of the world for a change. We need to open a thread about the end of the world, and invite the God Squad to participate in it. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 20, 2024 11:58:30 GMT
Every now and then Zany does a little advert for world communism Presumably your definition of "world communism" includes centrist businessmen like Zany now. I can understand you not liking communism. But to critique it with intelligence you do need to actually understand what communism is I don't feel zany is a communist. He has been manipulated Do i understand what communism is? lol.. |
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Post by Steve on Sept 20, 2024 13:02:02 GMT
Presumably your definition of "world communism" includes centrist businessmen like Zany now. I can understand you not liking communism. But to critique it with intelligence you do need to actually understand what communism is I don't feel zany is a communist. He has been manipulated . . You say he has been manipulated? Oh the irony. |
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Post by Zany on Sept 20, 2024 20:36:51 GMT
Presumably your definition of "world communism" includes centrist businessmen like Zany now. I can understand you not liking communism. But to critique it with intelligence you do need to actually understand what communism is I don't feel zany is a communist. He has been manipulatedDo i understand what communism is? lol.. Oh I do hope so. Haven't had a good manipulation in years, |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2024 20:46:03 GMT
Presumably your definition of "world communism" includes centrist businessmen like Zany now. I can understand you not liking communism. But to critique it with intelligence you do need to actually understand what communism is I don't feel zany is a communist. He has been manipulated Do i understand what communism is? lol.. You haven't given any indication that you understand what it is so far. But I will give you a clue. It does not equate to everything you don't like. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 20, 2024 21:32:04 GMT
I don't feel zany is a communist. He has been manipulated Do i understand what communism is? lol.. You haven't given any indication that you understand what it is so far. But I will give you a clue. It does not equate to everything you don't like. ? Somebody with a kind heart, message this buffoon and save him from himself |
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Post by Steve on Sept 20, 2024 22:06:24 GMT
More childish abuse ^
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2024 7:17:16 GMT
You haven't given any indication that you understand what it is so far. But I will give you a clue. It does not equate to everything you don't like. ? Somebody with a kind heart, message this buffoon and save him from himself In the absence of any indication that you have the faintest idea what you are on about, you resort to insults. And you call me the buffoon, lol |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2024 7:22:25 GMT
He calls Zany a believer in global communism. Then backtracks when challenged on such a ridiculous assertion by saying he is merely being manipulated, presumably by global communists. Yet he cannot provide a definition of what global communism actually is supposed to be nor any indication that he actually knows what communism is at all. And his own apparent belief in reds under the bed conspiracy theories suggests he is actually talking out of his arse. |
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Post by Steve on Sept 21, 2024 8:13:10 GMT
Yep anyone that thought that idiot McCarthyism died with McCarthy is very mistaken.
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Post by Orac on Sept 21, 2024 8:38:21 GMT
He calls Zany a believer in global communism. Then backtracks when challenged on such a ridiculous assertion by saying he is merely being manipulated, presumably by global communists. Yet he cannot provide a definition of what global communism actually is supposed to be nor any indication that he actually knows what communism is at all. And his own apparent belief in reds under the bed conspiracy theories suggests he is actually talking out of his arse. I didn't say that Zany believes in communism, I said that,, every now and then 'he 'does an advert' for world communism'. If i wanted to talk to you about 'a definition' of communism' , I could have easily entered google, typed the word 'communism', clicked the top link and then copied and pasted the text. You seem to be boasting that this is within your capabilities but outside mine, but from my perspective this really isn't much of a boast. Copying and pasting into a conversation t'he definition' of a political philosophy, whose proponents all have different takes on 'how it could work', but which has failed with every attempt at practical implementation, is the sort of thing a fool would do, Rather than talking about "the definition of communism", it makes far more sense to talk about communism |
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Post by Saint on Sept 21, 2024 9:09:49 GMT
You seem to be boasting that this is within your capabilities but outside mine, but from my perspective this really isn't much of a boast. Copying and pasting into a conversation t'he definition' of a political philosophy, whose proponents all have different takes on 'how it could work', but which has failed with every attempt at practical implementation, is the sort of thing a fool would do, I think it's fair to say that communism has failed at every attempt at practical implementation. But there are things which will only work under the right conditions. Marx was of the opinion that communism could only work in a country with a strong industrial base and a long and established tradition of democracy. I imagine that one of the Nordic countries will be the first real communist state. But that's still a long way off. People often forget that Marx claimed that communism is something that will naturally develop under certain conditions. It will just happen. Industrialised societies, he said, become increasingly socialist over time. That is, in every industrialised society there will be a marked trend towards increased equality, until, after a very long time, those societies will become communist. This is his dialectic theory. In your opinion, is the UK becoming increasingly socialist? Has there been a recognisable trend towards equality in respect of workers' rights, tenants' rights, etc? Are workers and tenants in a much better place than they were 100 years ago? I think they are. And I think that is true of every industrialised democracy. I don't believe that it is far fetched to say that, if this trend continues, there may be many industrial societies that approximate communist states in a hundred years' time, as Marx has suggested. |
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