New research shows inequality will end humanity

You are the past master at making things up I didn’t say,I said there are too many people on the planet and there are imo but I didn’t say other people shouldn’t live or breed that’s not my choice.

And all the figurative characters you want to make up might well consume too much but if you eliminated all of them it would make no difference because some amongst the strugglers will take their place,it’s what humanity does .

Do you think all the western billionaires or the Putins, Kim il what’s his name  or Xi and all the aid grabbers in the poor countries give a stuff about the plebs.


I know depressing ain’t it?

Why did I say it? because I believe it to be true it’s my opinion anyway but for people to then argue I’m the guy who wants to not to let people live or breed,good god I don’t want people to live makes it sound I want them all dead which is patently not true.

Take this scenario a thread on the danger of Trump being next president,
I post it would be better if people like Trump did not exist (and it would imo) someone comes along and says you’re the guy that wants him dead.

Of course I will argue that’s not what I said because that is untrue.

I have in fact in the past said similar though I have said that’s not my choice and it isn’t it’s the choice of the US voters and if they’re daft enough so be it.

If I argue against others interpretations of what I say why is that unfair would you be happy to see your thoughts twisted without comment?

To this point of yours
The cynic in me would reply,window dressing the Chinese are intent on extending their hegemony and becoming the next world superpower ,which they are grabbing territory extending their influence.
The Chinese are concerned about their own well being and health or at least their leaders are.

I see humour in many things you would disapprove of and am cynical and a realist,it’s a forum disagree but if I think you’re wrong I will argue the toss.

Thats me,you also have the option of saying you are not what we want here and I’ll sod off.
I might post a parting shot though 

I think you have a view of how this forum should be,again it’s my opinion you (and others) are preoccupied with another place,you shouldn’t this is another forum forget what went before and ruminating on what is perceived as undesirables and not being that other place or how you’re better than another forum.

A forum is the sum total of all its members and if you exclude dissenting voices then it’s pointless and none of it matters or  anyway nobody that matters takes a blind bit of notice of this or any other forum it’s a place to air your thought and opinions.

And on that note I’ll log off for a while if I can’t log on again I’ve got the message. 

The trouble with letting things slip for peace of mind as a mod is that if you let a few go unchallenged, then as soon as you step on a future comment you are accused of favouritism and bias. 

So I invented the Green  system to try and "advise" people before it got out to that point. One thing I didn't allow for is new members not knowing the green system and  Monte not liking them. 

Would any of you prefer Monte to take over from me, please say. 

The only vote is if members wish me to step down. 

The new member I think you are referring to is himself a mod of several years on a rival forum. He knows his own mind and has his own opinions and I do not always agree with them.

But he and I have known each other for nearly 14 years now and though not all his arguments are always well thought out - though I suppose we can all be guilty of that every now and again - he tends not to troll and mostly plays the ball and not the man and brings some alternative viewpoints to the table, and he should be welcomed here for that.

I don't want this forum to become a place that is unwelcoming to people who disagree with us too strongly. Opposing views are the lifeblood of forums like this. 

And whether or not Monte likes the person expressing them is utterly irrelevant. If anyone dislikes another member either get over it or block them. But no one should have any kind of political or moral veto on who is welcome here.

Well I like Monte and all that, but on this one that is just his tough shit surely? You are a very fair minded mod, and you don't go throwing your weight around, deleting and sanctioning all over the place. I want you to stay and your green and red system is very easy to understand and newbies will pick it up soon enough. Besides did not what green and red means used to be spelled out under your avatar? Why did you remove it?

You are uncharacteristically reacting like me in seeing a storm in a tea cup. I doubt that anyone here wants you to step down, and even if someone does, he will be greatly outnumbered by the rest of us. 

Because he and Saint set up this forum. Somehow its in the name of Orac and he made me mod. 
Didn't know the politics involved, just accepted.