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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2024 20:13:03 GMT
But I predict some bad things are on the horizon and a lot of innocents along with a few villains will be on the receiving end.
I’ve banged on about this on other forums that movement of people is a massive problem which threatens the stability of the western democracies.
That hard decisions will have to be taken you may interpret as some form of racism,that’s up to you and I’m not going to justify my stance,ignoring ordinary people drives them to those only too happy to profit both politically and monetarily.
Borrowing from a statement by a poster on another thread citing undesirables I see a real one in the form of Yaxley Lennon,
Labelling those you disagree with as undesirables only drives them where they would not normally go and that’s toward people like Yaxley Lennon and that’s happening now.
As I said at the outset I hope I’m wrong but I fear for this country.
Digressing a little and referencing that comment made on the other thread I can’t say I’ve seen anyone I’d term an undesirable on forums,some may infuriate make you want to laugh or even cry but in the end nobody gets hurt in the way real life is about to do.
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Post by montegriffo on Sept 11, 2024 20:20:41 GMT
Yaxley Lennon is now an exile.
If he returns he'll be arrested for inciting the recent riots and be put away for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2024 20:28:14 GMT
Yaxley Lennon is now an exile. If he returns he'll be arrested for inciting the recent riots and be put away for a long time. Which will make all his dreams come true and turn him in to a martyr (to some) |
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Post by montegriffo on Sept 11, 2024 20:51:50 GMT
Yaxley Lennon is now an exile. If he returns he'll be arrested for inciting the recent riots and be put away for a long time. Which will make all his dreams come true and turn him in to a martyr (to some) Or he'll just fade away into obscurity until he's extradited and jailed. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2024 21:01:30 GMT
Which will make all his dreams come true and turn him in to a martyr (to some) Or he'll just fade away into obscurity until he's extradited and jailed. I wouldn’t be betting on him not returning soon,….BS? Maybe but he’s been jailed before and I think he sees his time coming,a pound shop fuhrer maybe but he could make plenty of mischief. |
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Post by dappy on Sept 11, 2024 21:25:44 GMT
Sorry Wapentake I am not quite sure what point you are making or what you are asking me to do. Could you clarify please.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2024 21:44:25 GMT
Sorry Wapentake I am not quite sure what point you are making or what you are asking me to do. Could you clarify please. I’m not asking you to do anything,I’m making observations on what I think is happening. The point should be obvious I’d have thought, the movement of people is making ordinary people look towards those they’d normally ignore,it’s happening across Europe surely you’ve noticed. What you can do as an individual is not a lot really,doesn’t what you see and are reading increasingly day by day a problem? |
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Post by dappy on Sept 11, 2024 22:20:23 GMT
OK. Is your point about legal migration - well over 90% of total migration or asylum - relatively small in number
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2024 22:54:27 GMT
OK. Is your point about legal migration - well over 90% of total migration or asylum - relatively small in number Tbh Dappy I looked in as a visitor today (haven’t done for a while) and saw a post about undesirables coming here ( to the forum) which prompted me to log on and comment. That then lead to me starting this thread and the undesirables arriving here along with some native making capital out of it. If you think movement of people is not a problem that’s fine but you live in a different world,have you not seen what’s happening politically across Europe? |
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Post by dappy on Sept 11, 2024 23:49:28 GMT
I’m struggling to get the relationship between “undesirables” and movement of people to be honest. If your point is simply “immigration is a political issue at the moment in much of the west” I agree with you.
I assumed you wanted to explore why and what solutions should be found. If you want to stop at that simple point that’s fine of course.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2024 6:19:26 GMT
I’m struggling to get the relationship between “undesirables” and movement of people to be honest. If your point is simply “immigration is a political issue at the moment in much of the west” I agree with you. I assumed you wanted to explore why and what solutions should be found. If you want to stop at that simple point that’s fine of course. It’s a discussion forum so the above amongst other things should be obvious shouldn’t it? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2024 6:41:48 GMT
The entire Western world and now many countries in the East, such as Japan etc have a problem that dappy and others alluded to in the other thread: the shifting demographics mean birth rates are below "replacement rates", which means the elderly will outweigh the youngins - which means no one will pay the pension bill for the olduns who aren't working - ergo import more people to fill the gap. That's fine as a short-term strategy, but as a long term strategy it's economically illiterate and will bankrupt many countries in the long-term - unless something like automation/AI fills in the gaps and everyone has to live on UBI
"You will own nothing, and you will be happy"
*shudder*
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2024 6:42:37 GMT
Nice to see you back here wapentake (I almost posted your other name by mistake!)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2024 6:57:16 GMT
Nice to see you back here wapentake (I almost posted your other name by mistake!) Not sure it will be long as I feel I’m being expected to make a point then expand on that myself and explore all the ins and outs of either side of the argument,perhaps I’m an undesirable  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2024 7:01:36 GMT
Nice to see you back here wapentake (I almost posted your other name by mistake!) Not sure it will be long as I feel I’m being expected to make a point then expand on that myself and explore all the ins and outs of either side of the argument,perhaps I’m an undesirable Pat will most certainly display his superiority in every post, along with other posters here who are just naturally superior to almost everyone by virtue of winning on the internet |
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