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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 16:27:47 GMT
we want our marmalade recipe back monte. Thieving barstewards. Its easy, just forget to peel the orange before you put it in the jam. I need my specs on I think. I thought that said "steal" instead of " peel" .
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 25, 2024 16:29:11 GMT
The world's finest marmalade. does that count though monte? you actually used to nick all the oranges from your colonies , and now rely on the Spanish supplying them to you , as long as they dont mention Gibraltar. the recipe was actually once again , invented by us Scottish like so much else . like I said , do you actually make anything that you dont nick ? The finest marmalade needs the finest oranges. It's not our fault they grow in Seville. The recipe for marmalade is of course Roman but one of the earliest written recipes for orange marmalade is found in an English book. The Scottish contribution was to water it down. Typical Scots behaviour, trying to get more for their money.
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 16:29:42 GMT
where is that montegriffio character , coming on this forum , nicking all our Scottish recipes.
as the great French philosopher voltaire once famously said......."we ( the civilised world) look to scotland for all our ideas of civilisation "
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Post by Zany on Aug 25, 2024 16:30:46 GMT
interesting fact that not once in human history , as far back as scholastic research can penetrate , has there ever been a homogenous country called britian . Yes that is weird. Google says The name Britain comes from the Latin word Britannia, which is derived from the Greek word Prettanike or Brettaniai. Prettanike may come from a Celtic word that means "the painted ones" or "the tattooed folk". In 325 BCE, Greek explorer Pytheas of Massalia was the first to use the name Bretannike to describe Britain, referring to the people's custom of painting or tattooing themselves. In classical Greek and Latin texts, the "p" in Prettanike often changed to a "b", resulting in Britannia. But I'm none the wiser for that.
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 16:32:19 GMT
does that count though monte? you actually used to nick all the oranges from your colonies , and now rely on the Spanish supplying them to you , as long as they dont mention Gibraltar. the recipe was actually once again , invented by us Scottish like so much else . like I said , do you actually make anything that you dont nick ? The finest marmalade needs the finest oranges. It's not our fault they grow in Seville. The recipe for marmalade is of course Roman but one of the earliest written recipes for orange marmalade is found in an English book. The Scottish contribution was to water it down. Typical Scots behaviour, trying to get more for their money. monte , how can the earliest recipe be found in an English book when it was us Scottish who civilised you and taught you how to read and write post the roman period? we invented marmalade , due to our interaction with our Iberian brothers and sisters , going way back to the old Celtic period. do you think it coincidence the northern Spanish all have red hair and play bagpipes? We were eating marmalade , when the English were still living in caves in the hartz mountains of Germany. admit it. You nicked our recipe , and are now trying to pass it off as your own.
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 25, 2024 16:41:19 GMT
Bagpipes, pah. They are no more Scottish than kilts are.
Bagpipes, of course, go all the way back to ancient Egypt. Away wi yer pikey windbags.
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 17:17:56 GMT
Bagpipes, pah. They are no more Scottish than kilts are. Bagpipes, of course, go all the way back to ancient Egypt. Away wi yer pikey windbags. och yer arse. Not content with nicking our marmalade recipe , you are now trying to steal the kilt? we have plenty of evidence that Scots , and the ancestors of the Scots , were wearing the kilt before anyone had heard of the country of england. Off the top of my head , in Aberlmeno kirkyard in north east scotland, we have an old 8th century Pictish standing stone commemorating the battle of dunnichen fought in the year 685 ad. The figures on the stone of the Pictish warriors are all depicted wearing kilts according to experts and historians. About 1100 years before the English tried to nick yet another much loved Scottish cultural marker.
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 25, 2024 17:20:01 GMT
Just like the Picts to send their women into battle for them.
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 17:21:40 GMT
interesting fact that not once in human history , as far back as scholastic research can penetrate , has there ever been a homogenous country called britian . Yes that is weird. Google says The name Britain comes from the Latin word Britannia, which is derived from the Greek word Prettanike or Brettaniai. Prettanike may come from a Celtic word that means "the painted ones" or "the tattooed folk". In 325 BCE, Greek explorer Pytheas of Massalia was the first to use the name Bretannike to describe Britain, referring to the people's custom of painting or tattooing themselves. In classical Greek and Latin texts, the "p" in Prettanike often changed to a "b", resulting in Britannia. But I'm none the wiser for that. it wasnt the greek word , but the greek translation of the Celtic word at the time for these islands , which was prydain. The welsh are the native britons .Their language is the native British language. There is an argument that the original Celtic language that preceded the ancestor of welsh was of course Goidelic , an ancestor of Scottish and irish and Manx. There is actually an argument that the Celtic languages came here with the beaker people.
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 25, 2024 17:28:56 GMT
Yes that is weird. Google says The name Britain comes from the Latin word Britannia, which is derived from the Greek word Prettanike or Brettaniai. Prettanike may come from a Celtic word that means "the painted ones" or "the tattooed folk". In 325 BCE, Greek explorer Pytheas of Massalia was the first to use the name Bretannike to describe Britain, referring to the people's custom of painting or tattooing themselves. In classical Greek and Latin texts, the "p" in Prettanike often changed to a "b", resulting in Britannia. But I'm none the wiser for that. it wasnt the greek word , but the greek translation of the Celtic word at the time for these islands , which was prydain. The welsh are the native britons .Their language is the native British language. There is an argument that the original Celtic language that preceded the ancestor of welsh was of course Goidelic , an ancestor of Scottish and irish and Manx. There is actually an argument that the Celtic languages came here with the beaker people. I thought it was fairly well recognised that the Celtic language came with the Beaker people? In fact, it wasn't so much a people that arrived as much as a new set of ideas including metal working, new agricultural innovations and the Celtic language.
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 17:29:17 GMT
Just like the Picts to send their women into battle for them. The kilt was a sign of manliness and power. Originally Celtic warriors would run into battle naked , but by the 7 th century , we had become a bit more sophisticated , and wore the kilt itself. The idea of the kilt , which comes from the same root word as celt , is hidden , or to hide. it kept your manhood hidden , but allowed the much larger endowed Scottish warriors room to move, unlike their anglo saxon counterparts , whose small size was often ridiculed among the Scots of antiquity. As I said monte , there really should be a modern law against the English trying to culturally misappropriate all the great things scotland has invented. I mean I haven't laughed so hard since the father in law told me how great English whiskey was.
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 25, 2024 17:32:12 GMT
Tastes like floor cleaner to me wherever it comes from.
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 17:33:20 GMT
it wasnt the greek word , but the greek translation of the Celtic word at the time for these islands , which was prydain. The welsh are the native britons .Their language is the native British language. There is an argument that the original Celtic language that preceded the ancestor of welsh was of course Goidelic , an ancestor of Scottish and irish and Manx. There is actually an argument that the Celtic languages came here with the beaker people. I thought it was fairly well recognised that the Celtic language came with the Beaker people? In fact, it wasn't so much a people that arrived as much as a new set of ideas including metal working, new agricultural innovations and the Celtic language. no believe it or not , there is still a lot of arguing over where and when the original Celtic language came to these islands. the people arrived with the languages and culture. That doesn't necessarily mean they completely replaced or wiped the previous inhabitants , but certainly new waves of European migrants arrived. Didnt I read , contrary to the island race push people like vinny lap up , that almost everyone in these islands can trace themselves back to a common European ancestor in Central Europe some 5000 years ago ? Prior to Churchills crap book on the British island race , I dont think the thought had ever entered peoples minds that we were some sort of island people separate from Europe , which of course we aren't.
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 17:34:48 GMT
Tastes like floor cleaner to me wherever it comes from. im not a whiskey drinker monte , but of course you have to admire the Scottish indgenuity and invention , as well as the fact whiskey sales help keep Englands treasury afloat , with the massive tax take.
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 25, 2024 17:47:42 GMT
I believe there is no DNA evidence for a mass influx of new peoples. More likely that small numbers of people arrived with their superior technology which spread quickly along with the new language and culture. Getting back to the original topic, Stonehenge was the last hurrah of the Neolithic age built on the cusp of the new Bronze Age. The West Kennet Barrows built less than a thousand years after Stonehenge was completed were filled with grave goods such as bronze daggers, gold chest pieces and the highly decorated beaker pottery we associate with the new age.
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