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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 12:59:08 GMT
That your response has no relevance to my post. zany you are filling up the thread with banal points. I ask again , whats the problem with jumping forward in history? |
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Post by Zany on Aug 25, 2024 13:06:42 GMT
Thank you. I had heard the name Alba. Was 'Scotland foisted upon the Scottish? I thought Alba (Albion) referred to the entire Island of Britain in the 9th century? Not in the ninth century it didnt. Alba is the Goidelic Celtic name for this island originally , possibly around 1000 bc , and then as the language changed to brythonic Celtic , this island became known as prydain. The romans bastardised it to Britain. Alba , like many other place names , has meant different things down through the centuries. The whole island , the part of the island where the gaels ruled , to scotland north of the forth Clyde , to the whole of modern scotland. Albion is the latin version of the name , which came into use much later. Remember in latin , scotland was an old name for ireland , and the irish monks of the Catholic Church like marianus in the 11th century were known as Scots. names change and take on different meanings. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianus_ScotusAh. I misunderstood you. I thought you meant the name had been changed (Presumably by the English overlords) but it was the language that changed. Thanks for the rest, I appreciate your knowledge and its nice to learn something new. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2024 13:10:32 GMT
Agreed
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Post by Zany on Aug 25, 2024 13:13:47 GMT
That your response has no relevance to my post. zany you are filling up the thread with banal points. I ask again , whats the problem with jumping forward in history? That it used my post but had nothing to do with it. What's wrong with jumping forward in history is that it changed the perceived meaning of my words. My post was a play specifically on this The famous ogham alphabet scholar , Rab Mac Alistair , translated one of the ogham inscribed standing stones in north east scotland , which was a record of ancient neolithic times.
In the neolithic language , the word for what was to become England , translates into modern English as " the land where stolen goods disappear" . I.E a place where our local thieves sell the goods they stole. Rather than that the English stole them from us. It had nothing whatsoever to do with Scottish trading partners. |
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 13:19:05 GMT
Ah. I misunderstood you. I thought you meant the name had been changed (Presumably by the English overlords) but it was the language that changed. Thanks for the rest, I appreciate your knowledge and its nice to learn something new. to understand why we all speak a language miscalled English , when in reality it is mainly non anglo Saxon (45% Norman French) ( less 30 % saxon)you have to go back to the events in Hastings , and its aftermath , and how the English language as it was ceased to exist. historians and some linguists will try and show you this nice neat change from old English , to middle to modern , which disguises how brutally the Norman overlords forced language change o the English themselves before moving onto the rest of us. Even as late as the 16th century , English clerics were trying in vain to revive proper English ( anglo saxon). English wasnt introduced into scotland by either the anglo saxons or the later English themselves. A small part of what is now south eastern scotland was part of the old kingdom of northumbira , and a multi language linguistic zone , but the change from Gaelic being Scotlands lingua Franca , to Middle English really began late 14th early fifteenth century as the Scottish Norman elite changed language. Gaelic ceased to be the language of the court and administration , although kings such as James fourth. , and possibly James 6th , could speak Gaelic. Alba is still the modern name we use for scotland in Scots gaidhlig . in practically every part of what is now modern scotland , Gaelic was spoken , in parts of the south , as late as the 18 th century. |
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 13:22:44 GMT
zany you are filling up the thread with banal points. I ask again , whats the problem with jumping forward in history? That it used my post but had nothing to do with it. What's wrong with jumping forward in history is that it changed the perceived meaning of my words. My post was a play specifically on this The famous ogham alphabet scholar , Rab Mac Alistair , translated one of the ogham inscribed standing stones in north east scotland , which was a record of ancient neolithic times.
In the neolithic language , the word for what was to become England , translates into modern English as " the land where stolen goods disappear" . I.E a place where our local thieves sell the goods they stole. Rather than that the English stole them from us. It had nothing whatsoever to do with Scottish trading partners. zany , you do actually realise im taking the piss dont you? I invented the neolithic name for what is now england as the land where stolen goods disappear. Scotland , england Britain diditnt exist in the minds of men , in the neolithic period , we dont even know what language they spoke , and it would be thousands of years before the ancestors of the Scots came to these islands , never mind the ancestors of the English who came thousands of years later. fuck sake. Steve took the piss out of scotland , I retorted. like I implied though . nothing much changes. goods from scotland end up in englanshire. do you lot actually make anything? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2024 13:26:24 GMT
That it used my post but had nothing to do with it. What's wrong with jumping forward in history is that it changed the perceived meaning of my words. My post was a play specifically on this The famous ogham alphabet scholar , Rab Mac Alistair , translated one of the ogham inscribed standing stones in north east scotland , which was a record of ancient neolithic times.
In the neolithic language , the word for what was to become England , translates into modern English as " the land where stolen goods disappear" . I.E a place where our local thieves sell the goods they stole. Rather than that the English stole them from us. It had nothing whatsoever to do with Scottish trading partners. zany , you do actually realise im taking the piss dont you? I invented the neolithic name for what is now england as the land where stolen goods disappear. Scotland , england Britain diditnt exist in the minds of men , in the neolithic period , we dont even know what language they spoke , and it would be thousands of years before the ancestors of the Scots came to these islands , never mind the ancestors of the English who came thousands of years later. fuck sake. Steve took the piss out of scotland , I retorted. like I implied though . nothing much changes. goods from scotland end up in englanshire. do you lot actually make anything?  |
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 25, 2024 14:37:44 GMT
That it used my post but had nothing to do with it. What's wrong with jumping forward in history is that it changed the perceived meaning of my words. My post was a play specifically on this The famous ogham alphabet scholar , Rab Mac Alistair , translated one of the ogham inscribed standing stones in north east scotland , which was a record of ancient neolithic times.
In the neolithic language , the word for what was to become England , translates into modern English as " the land where stolen goods disappear" . I.E a place where our local thieves sell the goods they stole. Rather than that the English stole them from us. It had nothing whatsoever to do with Scottish trading partners. zany , you do actually realise im taking the piss dont you? I invented the neolithic name for what is now england as the land where stolen goods disappear. Scotland , england Britain diditnt exist in the minds of men , in the neolithic period , we dont even know what language they spoke , and it would be thousands of years before the ancestors of the Scots came to these islands , never mind the ancestors of the English who came thousands of years later. fuck sake. Steve took the piss out of scotland , I retorted. like I implied though . nothing much changes. goods from scotland end up in englanshire. do you lot actually make anything? The world's finest marmalade. |
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Post by Zany on Aug 25, 2024 14:56:20 GMT
That it used my post but had nothing to do with it. What's wrong with jumping forward in history is that it changed the perceived meaning of my words. My post was a play specifically on this The famous ogham alphabet scholar , Rab Mac Alistair , translated one of the ogham inscribed standing stones in north east scotland , which was a record of ancient neolithic times.
In the neolithic language , the word for what was to become England , translates into modern English as " the land where stolen goods disappear" . I.E a place where our local thieves sell the goods they stole. Rather than that the English stole them from us. It had nothing whatsoever to do with Scottish trading partners. zany , you do actually realise im taking the piss dont you? I invented the neolithic name for what is now england as the land where stolen goods disappear. Scotland , england Britain diditnt exist in the minds of men , in the neolithic period , we dont even know what language they spoke , and it would be thousands of years before the ancestors of the Scots came to these islands , never mind the ancestors of the English who came thousands of years later. fuck sake. Steve took the piss out of scotland , I retorted. like I implied though . nothing much changes. goods from scotland end up in englanshire. do you lot actually make anything? Naah, you got me. I swallowed the bait and hook. I didn't really believe the interpretation of the writing but thought it existed and that you did. Oops what a ninny I am. |
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 15:36:25 GMT
zany , you do actually realise im taking the piss dont you? I invented the neolithic name for what is now england as the land where stolen goods disappear. Scotland , england Britain diditnt exist in the minds of men , in the neolithic period , we dont even know what language they spoke , and it would be thousands of years before the ancestors of the Scots came to these islands , never mind the ancestors of the English who came thousands of years later. fuck sake. Steve took the piss out of scotland , I retorted. like I implied though . nothing much changes. goods from scotland end up in englanshire. do you lot actually make anything? Naah, you got me. I swallowed the bait and hook. I didn't really believe the interpretation of the writing but thought it existed and that you did. Oops what a ninny I am. ogham was an alphabet used something like 4000 years if not more after Stonehenge was built. I personally would love to know more about the neolithic people , what language they spoke , how their society functioned , how they thought of other peoples in these islands. |
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 15:39:57 GMT
zany , you do actually realise im taking the piss dont you? I invented the neolithic name for what is now england as the land where stolen goods disappear. Scotland , england Britain diditnt exist in the minds of men , in the neolithic period , we dont even know what language they spoke , and it would be thousands of years before the ancestors of the Scots came to these islands , never mind the ancestors of the English who came thousands of years later. fuck sake. Steve took the piss out of scotland , I retorted. like I implied though . nothing much changes. goods from scotland end up in englanshire. do you lot actually make anything? The world's finest marmalade. does that count though monte? you actually used to nick all the oranges from your colonies , and now rely on the Spanish supplying them to you , as long as they dont mention Gibraltar. the recipe was actually once again , invented by us Scottish like so much else . like I said , do you actually make anything that you dont nick ? |
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 16:17:44 GMT
we want our marmalade recipe back monte. Thieving barstewards.
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Post by Zany on Aug 25, 2024 16:24:52 GMT
Naah, you got me. I swallowed the bait and hook. I didn't really believe the interpretation of the writing but thought it existed and that you did. Oops what a ninny I am. ogham was an alphabet used something like 4000 years if not more after Stonehenge was built. I personally would love to know more about the neolithic people , what language they spoke , how their society functioned , how they thought of other peoples in these islands. Yes me too. |
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Post by Zany on Aug 25, 2024 16:25:48 GMT
we want our marmalade recipe back monte. Thieving barstewards. Its easy, just forget to peel the orange before you put it in the jam. |
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Post by Amadan on Aug 25, 2024 16:26:32 GMT
ogham was an alphabet used something like 4000 years if not more after Stonehenge was built. I personally would love to know more about the neolithic people , what language they spoke , how their society functioned , how they thought of other peoples in these islands. Yes me too. interesting fact that not once in human history , as far back as scholastic research can penetrate , has there ever been a homogenous country called britian . |
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