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Post by Zany on Aug 31, 2024 11:27:32 GMT
I'll be glad when we've all taken Microsoft's pill and we can finally agree on everything.   |
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Post by Steve on Aug 31, 2024 23:09:17 GMT
This is not looking good as Russia is now poised to take a key Ukrainian logistics hub precisely because best resources were diverted away from it and instead to this adventure into Russia. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c984g10e22lo
'Russia has made sweeping advances in recent days that threaten to outweigh the gains made by Ukraine in its cross-border attack into the Kursk region.
Russian forces are just a few kilometres from the Ukrainian city of Pokrovsk, a crucial logistics hub used by the Ukrainian military.
Home to a key railway station and major roads, Pokrovsk is an essential supply and reinforcement point for Ukraine’s troops on the eastern front line.' |
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Post by Orac on Sept 1, 2024 10:15:39 GMT
hard to see what the realistic objective is here
Is it just for clicks?
I think it is likely the result will be to transform a somewhat 'stable' situation into an unstable one that keeps threatening to fold into "ww3" or a broader regional war...perhaps that was the objective?
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Post by Steve on Nov 17, 2024 20:21:16 GMT
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Post by vinny on Nov 18, 2024 8:54:33 GMT
Good.
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Post by Steve on Nov 18, 2024 10:10:50 GMT
We'll see. Should have tried absolute sanctions first. Anyone that trades with Russia cannot trade with us. |
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Post by AvonCalling on Nov 18, 2024 10:51:13 GMT
We'll see. Should have tried absolute sanctions first. Anyone that trades with Russia cannot trade with us. How would absolute sanctions work. For example I am pretty sure that Indian nationals are heavily involved in our IT infrastructure/service industry. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 18, 2024 14:48:57 GMT
We'll see. Should have tried absolute sanctions first. Anyone that trades with Russia cannot trade with us. How would absolute sanctions work. For example I am pretty sure that Indian nationals are heavily involved in our IT infrastructure/service industry. Well either India would stop buying that oil or they wouldn't be working anymore from Indian IT centres |
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Post by vinny on Nov 18, 2024 14:50:21 GMT
We'll see. Should have tried absolute sanctions first. Anyone that trades with Russia cannot trade with us. I suggested such sanctions two years ago. Additionally, throw India out of the Commonwealth if it wishes to continue trading with Russia. |
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Post by borg0 on Nov 18, 2024 14:57:18 GMT
Alienating all partner countries is a recipe for isolation
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Post by Steve on Nov 18, 2024 15:05:12 GMT
Alienating all partner countries is a recipe for isolation You say that like isolation from those that fund mass murderous attacks is a bad thing. It isn't. |
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Post by borg0 on Nov 18, 2024 15:15:08 GMT
We've all done it (the countries we're all from) - It's the norm If we cut off everyone who's done it - That's everyone. I'm actually not against that but I think you might be as you are for free trade and open markets. Even if we selectively cut them off; if we cut off China, India and countless others then we're forced to trade only with Europe (avoiding the fact that they too fund such things) If Trump "funds mass murderous attacks" by sending unlimited support to Israel, we'd have to cut off support to America One must be careful what one calls for But like I said before, I am against neoliberalism and for 100% self-sufficiency (if we could achieve it), thus, what you say may work out for the best in the end. Total protectionism and no more free markets and no more Neoliberalism - the unintended consequence of doing what you suggest That may indeed not be a bad thing.
Everyone means well and funds what they think is right, they don't see them as murderous attacks being funded, they see it as funding freedom fighters
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
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Post by Steve on Nov 18, 2024 15:18:54 GMT
The difference is that our government recognises that the invasion of Ukraine was wrong.
And you misrepresent me on free trade. God knows where you got that false impression from.
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Post by borg0 on Nov 18, 2024 15:20:53 GMT
Ok, if you are for cutting off China and India and going it alone, you may have my support on that purely on the basis of protectionism and ending Neoliberalism
I'm not doing it to cause problems for any country, purely because countries being self sufficient is on the whole better
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Post by vinny on Nov 18, 2024 15:33:56 GMT
Alienating all partner countries is a recipe for isolation Any partner of Putin's is no partner of civilisation. Sanction all human rights abusers, and their allies. |
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