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Post by patman post on Aug 2, 2024 12:45:09 GMT
Moving away from this thread's collection of verbal wheelies, does anyone know how come such large assemblies of seemingly mostly violent EDL-types** — apparently from around the country — can be arranged at such short notice? Is it just a coincidence that they all happen to read the same social media and are ready to travel at a moment's notice — or are they already members of organised and coordinated gangs? **I know that the EDL supposedly no longer exists, but Stormfront, the world's oldest neo-Nazi website, was supposedly shut down in 2017: www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/08/29/worlds-oldest-neo-nazi-website-stormfront-shut/But it still operates and carries posts like: ...... I'm reading that the guy who stabbed and murdered two white children is named Ali Al-Shakat ...... apparently on an MI6 watch list ...... How many children have to die at the hands of these invaders before there's finally something done to kick them all out? ....... EVERY TIME this happens POLICE LITERALLY GO AROUND 'CONFISCATING' PEOPLE'S CELLPHONES and ANY MATERIAL THAT COULD LEAD TO THE PUBLIC FINDING OUT WHO THE PERPETRATOR IS. And the problem is we cannot be sure who's generating this material. Are they genuine home-grown NF/BNP/Britain First-style throwbacks? Or are they being manipulated by anti-West agitators...?
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Post by Zany on Aug 2, 2024 13:23:35 GMT
Moving away from this thread's collection of verbal wheelies, does anyone know how come such large assemblies of seemingly mostly violent EDL-types** — apparently from around the country — can be arranged at such short notice? Is it just a coincidence that they all happen to read the same social media and are ready to travel at a moment's notice — or are they already members of organised and coordinated gangs? **I know that the EDL supposedly no longer exists, but Stormfront, the world's oldest neo-Nazi website, was supposedly shut down in 2017: www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/08/29/worlds-oldest-neo-nazi-website-stormfront-shut/But it still operates and carries posts like: ...... I'm reading that the guy who stabbed and murdered two white children is named Ali Al-Shakat ...... apparently on an MI6 watch list ...... How many children have to die at the hands of these invaders before there's finally something done to kick them all out? ....... EVERY TIME this happens POLICE LITERALLY GO AROUND 'CONFISCATING' PEOPLE'S CELLPHONES and ANY MATERIAL THAT COULD LEAD TO THE PUBLIC FINDING OUT WHO THE PERPETRATOR IS. And the problem is we cannot be sure who's generating this material. Are they genuine home-grown NF/BNP/Britain First-style throwbacks? Or are they being manipulated by anti-West agitators...?
"Cellphone" is a bit of a giveaway that its not local. I wonder if the conspiracy theorists would like to swap their shoes and consider who might be controlling their thoughts like sheeple. |
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Post by AvonCalling on Aug 2, 2024 13:48:46 GMT
Moving away from this thread's collection of verbal wheelies, does anyone know how come such large assemblies of seemingly mostly violent EDL-types** — apparently from around the country — can be arranged at such short notice? Is it just a coincidence that they all happen to read the same social media and are ready to travel at a moment's notice — or are they already members of organised and coordinated gangs? **I know that the EDL supposedly no longer exists, but Stormfront, the world's oldest neo-Nazi website, was supposedly shut down in 2017: www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/08/29/worlds-oldest-neo-nazi-website-stormfront-shut/But it still operates and carries posts like: ...... I'm reading that the guy who stabbed and murdered two white children is named Ali Al-Shakat ...... apparently on an MI6 watch list ...... How many children have to die at the hands of these invaders before there's finally something done to kick them all out? ....... EVERY TIME this happens POLICE LITERALLY GO AROUND 'CONFISCATING' PEOPLE'S CELLPHONES and ANY MATERIAL THAT COULD LEAD TO THE PUBLIC FINDING OUT WHO THE PERPETRATOR IS. And the problem is we cannot be sure who's generating this material. Are they genuine home-grown NF/BNP/Britain First-style throwbacks? Or are they being manipulated by anti-West agitators...?
I know what you mean about verbal wheelies but I was just trying to understand how what I saw as an opinion was being perceived as a fact. IMO the point is should we be able to know who is generating this material? Or possibly do our intelligence services really not know? |
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Post by Steve on Aug 2, 2024 14:50:46 GMT
Any statement of reality not accompanied by a disclaimer or caveat Just like that ^ was Anyone giving an opinion is hoping the audience will believe them. No one gives an opinion hoping the audience wont believe them. Yes but if they want to use the opinion get out for responsibility for a statement they need to clearly say it's their opinion. Orac's source was clearly trying to stir up hate just like he did last week and the week before and the week before and so on. |
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Post by Steve on Aug 2, 2024 15:01:07 GMT
Moving away from this thread's collection of verbal wheelies, does anyone know how come such large assemblies of seemingly mostly violent EDL-types** — apparently from around the country — can be arranged at such short notice? Is it just a coincidence that they all happen to read the same social media and are ready to travel at a moment's notice — or are they already members of organised and coordinated gangs? **I know that the EDL supposedly no longer exists, but Stormfront, the world's oldest neo-Nazi website, was supposedly shut down in 2017: www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/08/29/worlds-oldest-neo-nazi-website-stormfront-shut/But it still operates and carries posts like: ...... I'm reading that the guy who stabbed and murdered two white children is named Ali Al-Shakat ...... apparently on an MI6 watch list ...... How many children have to die at the hands of these invaders before there's finally something done to kick them all out? ....... EVERY TIME this happens POLICE LITERALLY GO AROUND 'CONFISCATING' PEOPLE'S CELLPHONES and ANY MATERIAL THAT COULD LEAD TO THE PUBLIC FINDING OUT WHO THE PERPETRATOR IS. And the problem is we cannot be sure who's generating this material. Are they genuine home-grown NF/BNP/Britain First-style throwbacks? Or are they being manipulated by anti-West agitators...?
All the time the WhatsApp groups are still active (and other more obscure systems such as bulletin boards) they have an effective functioning organisation. As for that cesspit Stormfront it lost it's then internet host in 2017 but IIRC rapidly found another host. Google and others apparently refuse to provide links to it. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 2, 2024 15:06:07 GMT
Back to original discussion.
There does seem to be a bit of a situation developing.
Perhaps the end game here is Keir Starmer giving the boat people uniforms and rifles so they can shoot the English
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Post by Steve on Aug 2, 2024 17:11:13 GMT
Back to original discussion. There does seem to be a bit of a situation developing. Perhaps the end game here is Keir Starmer giving the boat people uniforms and rifles so they can shoot the English . . This is a serious situation Orac, it sure doesn't need inane inflammatory crap like that post of yours. |
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Post by patman post on Aug 2, 2024 19:09:06 GMT
Back to original discussion. There does seem to be a bit of a situation developing. Perhaps the end game here is Keir Starmer giving the boat people uniforms and rifles so they can shoot the English You read like Tommy Two Names In A Suit trying to foment riots rather than looking for peaceful solutions. But that’s your right. That’s why we live in Hackney. Non-White and mixed race families don’t spark much controversy round here. And while the Met don’t draft in officers from Dagenham and other BNP heartlands, N16 is a good place to bring up a family, wherever their constituent parts come from… |
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Post by Zany on Aug 3, 2024 0:13:05 GMT
Anyone giving an opinion is hoping the audience will believe them. No one gives an opinion hoping the audience wont believe them. Yes but if they want to use the opinion get out for responsibility for a statement they need to clearly say it's their opinion. Orac's source was clearly trying to stir up hate just like he did last week and the week before and the week before and so on. Well yes obviously. and implied their opinion is the truth, but that's a big step away from saying it was a fact. I do wonder who is stirring up the likes of the EDF, is this the work of Russia.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 5:07:07 GMT
Mainly the energy companies stirring up the EDF
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 3, 2024 6:45:02 GMT
Thugs rioted in Sunderland last night.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 3, 2024 7:19:54 GMT
Thugs rioted in Sunderland last night. And set fire to a police station. I think we're past the listening to their legitimate concerns stage now. |
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Post by Zany on Aug 3, 2024 8:30:25 GMT
Mainly the energy companies stirring up the EDF Boom boom. Oops EDL. |
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Post by Zany on Aug 3, 2024 8:33:15 GMT
Thugs rioted in Sunderland last night. And set fire to a police station. I think we're past the listening to their legitimate concerns stage now. They seem to be made up of young men out for a fight, not sure they have expressed any legitimate concerns for us to listen to. |
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 3, 2024 8:51:26 GMT
And set fire to a police station. I think we're past the listening to their legitimate concerns stage now. They seem to be made up of young men out for a fight, not sure they have expressed any legitimate concerns for us to listen to. It's just 'brown people'. We don't get this when it's Poles being criminal. |
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