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Post by Steve on Aug 21, 2024 18:46:12 GMT
That would be same Jenrick that wants people locked up for saying 'God is Great'
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 21, 2024 18:47:16 GMT
And the same Jenrick who took a bung. ðŸ«
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Post by borgr0 on Aug 21, 2024 19:16:58 GMT
And out of them ^ he's one of the better candidates ..
Replace them with lettuce
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 21, 2024 19:39:40 GMT
To be fair, I don't see any of them grabbing the party and pulling them round. It may be it may take another leader afterwards.
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Post by borgr0 on Aug 21, 2024 20:12:54 GMT
They haven't got the talent
There is no party to pull around, it's talent less and got nothing going for it tbh there's no rescuing ^ that lot
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 21, 2024 21:26:02 GMT
It isn't so much about the direction of the party as much as getting hold of them. You're right, I don't see anyone there that can do that.
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Post by Steve on Aug 21, 2024 21:28:34 GMT
It's not talentless, the main problem is its membership that tends to support the more extreme lettucers so the good MPs in it tend to keep their head down.
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Post by borgr0 on Aug 21, 2024 21:59:11 GMT
It's not talentless, the main problem is its membership that tends to support the more extreme lettucers so the good MPs in it tend to keep their head down. What good MPs? Half of them want to do crazy sheet like abolish the minimum wage, they are the real lettuce-in types who never quite rise to the type, not ruthless enough, but also not stupid enough - not quite anything enough, sums up the Tory party to a T really
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Post by Steve on Aug 21, 2024 22:12:36 GMT
Worth looking at Andrew Mitchell who stood in the way of Tersa May's plan to abandon Human rights. Huw Merriman is gone now but he was very straight bat and fair minded.
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Post by borgr0 on Aug 22, 2024 4:21:43 GMT
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Post by Steve on Aug 22, 2024 9:17:08 GMT
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Post by dappy on Aug 22, 2024 9:26:01 GMT
Mitchell will be 73 at the next election. Hard to see him as the Tory future.
Not a Tory myself but the crop of six candidates does seem particularly uninspiring. Slightly surprising that there wasn’t some young unknown buck emerging from the ranks with a new vision for the party as Cameron did when he won the leadership. Maybe if such a person exists they thought best to bide their time and let some other bugger hold the fort while the civil war rages.
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Post by Steve on Aug 22, 2024 9:53:44 GMT
Good points ^
I guess we have to accept that it will be Badenoch and hope she grows up a bit. It would be good to see the Tories finally formally lose that 'them darkies' attitude so many of them have.
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Post by borgr0 on Aug 22, 2024 12:55:04 GMT
Like I said, it's the first result on googling 'Huw Merriman scandal', your attempt to say I ignored other links is ironically itself vexatious as I didn't see any other links Isn't it just convenient that so many people go back on their stories about these Tory MPs despite clear patterns of behaviour? It's almost like they were coerced into changing their stories isn't it?
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Post by equivocal on Aug 22, 2024 13:05:29 GMT
The only person who alleged the officer who made the complaint lied was Mitchell. That allegation cost Mitchell £80k in damages and several hundred thousands pounds in costs.
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