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Post by Zany on Jun 15, 2024 6:56:45 GMT
Because they're not. Your ridiculous claims on ME migrants are not supported by any facts again vague Hahaha. Asking you for evidence is vague. You can say that again.
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Post by Orac on Jun 15, 2024 7:02:02 GMT
Hahaha. Asking you for evidence is vague. You can say that again. He didn't ask for evidence, he just repeated vaguely that what i am saying is incorrect Substantially all i am saying is that large numbers of people moved here, so i am a bit perplexed I can't imagine being faced with you two on a jury
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Post by Zany on Jun 15, 2024 7:41:31 GMT
Hahaha. Asking you for evidence is vague. You can say that again. He didn't ask for evidence, he just repeated vaguely that what i am saying is incorrect Substantially all i am saying is that large numbers of people moved here, so i am a bit perplexed I can't imagine being faced with you two on a jury But I asked you for evidence. Everyone keeps telling you that immigration creates increased GDP and net tax gain. You just keep denying it with your stupid comments about all working in kebab shops. Crazy thing is, we're on your side. We all say that its a ponzi scheme and has to stop.
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Post by Steve on Jun 15, 2024 9:35:44 GMT
Hahaha. Asking you for evidence is vague. You can say that again. He didn't ask for evidence, he just repeated vaguely that what i am saying is incorrect Substantially all i am saying is that large numbers of people moved here, so i am a bit perplexed I can't imagine being faced with you two on a jury No you keep claiming millions are coming here from the Middle East. As you have been shown with evidence that is a completely bogus claim, false, a lie, a complete loads of codswallop. You going to call that vague?
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Post by Steve on Jun 15, 2024 9:38:01 GMT
A reminder for Orac You seem utterly determined to miss my point. If the British people were asked if they wanted to import millions of Middle East people with the possible 'upside' of grilled meat and bread (as pointed out earlier, something they already had), then they would have said 'no' Everything is a trade-off and nobody wanted that one No apologies from me for countering your false anecdotes. And we haven'timported 'millions of Middle East people' so that's another one. Migration Observatory is an organisation against immigration and they say your latest line is nonsense. migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/
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Post by Orac on Jun 15, 2024 18:22:44 GMT
He didn't ask for evidence, he just repeated vaguely that what i am saying is incorrect Substantially all i am saying is that large numbers of people moved here, so i am a bit perplexed I can't imagine being faced with you two on a jury No you keep claiming millions are coming here from the Middle East. As you have been shown with evidence that is a completely bogus claim, false, a lie, a complete loads of codswallop. You going to call that vague? So, at last you make it clear - it's the numbers that are the problem - or rather the term 'the middle east'?. I feel you may be transitioning into an old lady Let me revise my statement to avoid pedantry - Millions of people have moved .to the UK from various Asian / African shit-holes and the movement continuous. There is no need to change my point though.
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Post by Orac on Jun 15, 2024 18:29:25 GMT
He didn't ask for evidence, he just repeated vaguely that what i am saying is incorrect Substantially all i am saying is that large numbers of people moved here, so i am a bit perplexed I can't imagine being faced with you two on a jury But I asked you for evidence. Everyone keeps telling you that immigration creates increased GDP and net tax gain. You just keep denying it with your stupid comments about all working in kebab shops. Crazy thing is, we're on your side. We all say that its a ponzi scheme and has to stop. I have witnessed this being explained to you several times. Each time you appear to understand and then, when not in conversation, you appear to 'reset' and no longer understand. Our quality of life is set by our productivity, not our GDP. Productivity is predictably falling as we gradually accrue third world people and their cultures.
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Post by Zany on Jun 15, 2024 18:35:43 GMT
No you keep claiming millions are coming here from the Middle East. As you have been shown with evidence that is a completely bogus claim, false, a lie, a complete loads of codswallop. You going to call that vague? So, at last you make it clear - it's the numbers that are the problem - or rather the term 'the middle east'?. I feel you may be transitioning into an old lady Let me revise my statement to avoid pedantry - Millions of people have moved .to the UK from various Asian / African shit-holes and the movement continuous. There is no need to change my point though. Not every area of the middle east is a shit hole and only skilled people get jobs here. You really need to educate yourself.
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Post by Steve on Jun 15, 2024 22:13:36 GMT
All I can assume is Orac never ever played Risk because he has a weird view of what the Middle East is
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Post by AvonCalling on Jun 18, 2024 8:41:21 GMT
Did anyone see the programme last night about the sinking of the Adriana? Harrowing stuff but still a problem without a joined up solution
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Post by Steve on Jun 18, 2024 8:46:35 GMT
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Post by Orac on Jun 24, 2024 7:57:11 GMT
So, at last you make it clear - it's the numbers that are the problem - or rather the term 'the middle east'?. I feel you may be transitioning into an old lady Let me revise my statement to avoid pedantry - Millions of people have moved .to the UK from various Asian / African shit-holes and the movement continuous. There is no need to change my point though. Not every area of the middle east is a shit hole and only skilled people get jobs here. You really need to educate yourself. You should have used heavy emphasis in that statement Not absolutely every area of the middle east is a complete shit hole. I would even argue the toss on that - from our cultural perspective, the entire middle east is either broken or a criminal society. We should not be moving people from these societies into our own - it's equivalent to importing a prison population.
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