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Post by Steve on Jun 22, 2024 17:30:16 GMT
But they are allowed to sell to EU customers. They have set up mirror businesses but they're selling to EU customers. And more than a thousand EU banks have set up mirror operations here selling to us and paying tax here, it works both ways. www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1ZJ00C/www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56155531 There has been a huge amount of recruitment by those banks too. Get over it. Brexit has cost the UK in the region of £65bn. What is the benefit? There have been a few on the postive side but they sum up to bugger all |
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Post by vinny on Jun 23, 2024 7:42:10 GMT
But they are allowed to sell to EU customers. They have set up mirror businesses but they're selling to EU customers. And more than a thousand EU banks have set up mirror operations here selling to us and paying tax here, it works both ways. www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1ZJ00C/www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56155531 There has been a huge amount of recruitment by those banks too. Get over it. Brexit has cost the UK in the region of £65bn. What is the benefit? Wrong, it saved us £38,000,000,000. Our exports to the EU and the rest of the world are up in value, above inflation. And our position as an exporter has vastly improved. The benefit is independence, self governance, the ability to make our own laws and bilaterally negotiate free trade agreements with other countries, to enact sanctions unilaterally, to set standards of our own, based on facts and evidence rather than absurdity. We are also members of the Commonwealth of Nations. It's high time we invite the democratic reform of the Commonwealth into a free trade organisation to help lift former colonies out of poverty. Many of those countries have abundant resources. Free trade will help them and us. |
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Post by Zany on Jun 23, 2024 7:47:59 GMT
Brexit has cost the UK in the region of £65bn. What is the benefit? Wrong, it saved us £38,000,000,000. Our exports to the EU and the rest of the world are up in value, above inflation. And our position as an exporter has vastly improved. The benefit is independence, self governance, the ability to make our own laws and bilaterally negotiate free trade agreements with other countries, to enact sanctions unilaterally, to set standards of our own, based on facts and evidence rather than absurdity. We are also members of the Commonwealth of Nations. It's high time we invite the democratic reform of the Commonwealth into a free trade organisation to help lift former colonies out of poverty. Many of those countries have abundant resources. Free trade will help them and us. Have you been outside at all in the last few years? |
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Post by vinny on Jun 23, 2024 7:55:04 GMT
A lot more than you.
In 2015 we exported £223.3 billion to the EU.
In 2022 we exported £340 billion to the EU.
Taking inflation into account, that's £43 billion better than 2015.
Brexit has been an extremely good thing.
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Post by Zany on Jun 23, 2024 8:47:35 GMT
A lot more than you. In 2015 we exported £223.3 billion to the EU. In 2022 we exported £340 billion to the EU. Taking inflation into account, that's £43 billion better than 2015. Brexit has been an extremely good thing. And if you adjust for the value of sterling 2015 and 2022 it goes down hill |
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Post by Steve on Jun 23, 2024 9:29:03 GMT
A lot more than you. In 2015 we exported £223.3 billion to the EU. In 2022 we exported £340 billion to the EU. Taking inflation into account, that's £43 billion better than 2015. Brexit has been an extremely good thing. Seems your clock and calendar are still in lockdown This is June 2024 and you know full well 2022 was a freak recovery from Covid year and that our exports have fallen since. |
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Post by vinny on Jun 24, 2024 7:58:57 GMT
The effects of the war in Ukraine (a big agricultural producer), necessary sanctions against Russia, higher fuel prices and the legacy of Covid debts have hit most developed countries which suffered from high inflation.
Our country has been especially affected because we do not generate enough electricity, whilst the government is trying to encourage everyone to have an electric car.
The demand on the grid is enormous.
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Post by vinny on Jun 24, 2024 8:04:12 GMT
A lot more than you. In 2015 we exported £223.3 billion to the EU. In 2022 we exported £340 billion to the EU. Taking inflation into account, that's £43 billion better than 2015. Brexit has been an extremely good thing. And if you adjust for the value of sterling 2015 and 2022 it goes down hill The Bank of England inflation calculator takes that into account. www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator2015's EU exports were £223.3 billion. At May 2024 value, it would have been £299 billion, not £340bn. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02815/2023 we exported £898 billion, 41% of which went to the EU meaning £368.1 billion was exported to the EU. Calm down dear. |
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Post by Steve on Jun 24, 2024 9:15:35 GMT
Now take out of that the selling of Gold
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Post by Zany on Jun 24, 2024 20:43:37 GMT
Now take out of that the selling of Gold Oops |
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Post by Steve on Jun 24, 2024 21:23:10 GMT
Just so Vinny knows what we're referring to about those 2022 figures (Sky did a great piece on this the other day)
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Post by Steve on Jun 24, 2024 21:24:19 GMT
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Post by vinny on Jun 25, 2024 4:22:39 GMT
Gold is actually mined in the UK. Here is a map of where.  Anyway, too hot, can't sleep. |
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Post by equivocal on Jun 25, 2024 8:55:51 GMT
For 2023, assuming non monetary gold makes up the lion's share, exports to the EU were £1.2bn and to non EU £16.4bn.
If my arithmetic is correct, that changes Vinny's £368bn to £362bn.
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Post by vinny on Jun 25, 2024 9:22:15 GMT
For 2023, assuming non monetary gold makes up the lion's share, exports to the EU were £1.2bn and to non EU £16.4bn.
If my arithmetic is correct, that changes Vinny's £368bn to £362bn.
Which is still extremely healthy. |
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