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Post by Amadan on Jul 14, 2024 11:53:48 GMT
you've been saying that now monte for ages and the closer we get , the less likely sleepy Joe looks to win. its evil putting that old man Biden , with his clear health issues , through this election .He shouldn't have been allowed to run form the start , now the democrats can't back down and save face. They should both fuck off to the golf course and let someone under 70 have a go. we could always send keir starmer over to bore America to tears. with his empty slogans , and vacuous drivel. Even sleepy Joe looks more inspiring than that clown starmer. |
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Post by montegriffo on Jul 14, 2024 12:04:43 GMT
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Post by vinny on Jul 14, 2024 13:02:41 GMT
At what point will Americans realise that clinging onto the Second Amendment nearly killed the "hero" of the gun rights movement? If I were Biden I'd be making that point right now. It's one of Trump's weak points and his support of giving guns to nutters nearly cost him his life. hang on a minute , you are one to lecture the yanks or anyone anywhere regarding violence with the constant violent rhetoric you use to any group you politically disagree with on various forums. Do you see what path shouting "kill this person "or "abolish that " ,takes you down rather than trying to peacefully use the ballot box to further your political views? No idea who you are or what rock you crawled out from under, but I will post what I fucking like.Not on this forum. Please try and keep civil. Your argument stood well on its own.Ukraine are under attack from a murderous dictatorship, the only way they'll survive genocidal assault is by fighting for their fucking lives until Putin is taken out and killed by the Russian people.
As for the Barnett formula, it is not means tested it does nothing to lift anyone out of poverty, and devolution entrenches division without making the UK more democratic.
Get rid of both, have PR and direct democracy instead.
Now regarding the Yanks, thousands of people are killed in mass shootings in the USA, Trump did nothing about that on his watch, and boasted about having done nothing about it.
Now he's nearly been killed because of the very system he supports.
If I were Biden I'd be making that point and calling for better controls.
Controls don't mean no guns, controls mean fewer mass shootings.
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Post by Zany on Jul 14, 2024 13:06:33 GMT
As far as I am aware previous presidents have strived to keep the mix equal over democratic and republican judges. If you know different please demonstrate. Presidents tend to put people in who they feel are supportive of their position. It amounts to the same thing in any case - ie Obama's idea of 'balancing the court' is going toe be different from(say) Trump's Once again we seem to have hit that odd philosophical issue - the left genuinely seem to have a problem with processing the fact that what they feel is true and objective is not necessarily the case from another perspective, No. I mean they chose an equal number of Republicans as Democrats. Not the guy they thought was right for the job. Trump put in a bunch of anti abortion judges. Why? Was Trump a hard nosed Christian? Not by any standard I can imagine. Did he think making Abortion illegal might win him some Republican votes, Yes. |
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Post by Zany on Jul 14, 2024 13:10:12 GMT
Your virtue signalling is touching .Monte is clearly having a giggle , for those without a sense of humour , but perhaps its bad timing . It's ok to hate trump , or Biden or make jokes about either. It's not ok to attempt to kill politicians due to disliking their political views. one fucked up country. I'm not saying any more until I've heard what Alex Jones has to say. This might turn out to be a false flag operation. If it is, the bloke was a bloody good shot. To hit Trump in the ear while he was moving. I don't sign up to that. |
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Post by Zany on Jul 14, 2024 13:13:35 GMT
They should both fuck off to the golf course and let someone under 70 have a go. we could always send keir starmer over to bore America to tears. with his empty slogans , and vacuous drivel. Even sleepy Joe looks more inspiring than that clown starmer. You can tell the worlds in trouble when measured and sensible are considered boring in a leader. What we all DON'T need is another populist shouting Fight Fight Fight. How about turning to the crowd and saying Peace Peace Peace. But that's just boring. |
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Post by Steve on Jul 14, 2024 13:29:36 GMT
Is this a good time to point out that Bill Clinton is younger than both Trump and Biden?
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Post by vinny on Jul 14, 2024 13:33:54 GMT
I'm not saying any more until I've heard what Alex Jones has to say. This might turn out to be a false flag operation. If it is, the bloke was a bloody good shot. To hit Trump in the ear while he was moving. I don't sign up to that. Methinks Monte was joking. |
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Post by borgr0 on Jul 14, 2024 14:59:26 GMT
My hope is that he will go to prison for real crimes that can be proven against him; that is the answer- Violence is not. However, making up crimes and twisting the legal system around the objective of jailing a political figure, is also enacting violence.. Proof please? Not sure you're aware how steeped in criminality Trump is, which doesn't justify shooting him |
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Post by borgr0 on Jul 14, 2024 15:01:08 GMT
I'm not saying any more until I've heard what Alex Jones has to say. This might turn out to be a false flag operation. looks like trump just took a massive step towards the presidency monte. Joking aside . im just laughing at all the folk , and not just on here , swooning in disgust and pouring their hearts out in sympathy to trump where as the other day they were joining in the hate filled rants against him. At least your hatred is consistent. Can't stand Trump and want him locked up for being a criminal. Don't think shooting him or other violence against him is the answer, Monte gets very upset when people joke about killing asylum seekers, so kind of hypocritical to joke about killing Trump and others IMHO |
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Post by borgr0 on Jul 14, 2024 15:01:48 GMT
Presidents tend to put people in who they feel are supportive of their position. It amounts to the same thing in any case - ie Obama's idea of 'balancing the court' is going toe be different from(say) Trump's Once again we seem to have hit that odd philosophical issue - the left genuinely seem to have a problem with processing the fact that what they feel is true and objective is not necessarily the case from another perspective, No. I mean they chose an equal number of Republicans as Democrats. Not the guy they thought was right for the job. Trump put in a bunch of anti abortion judges. Why? Was Trump a hard nosed Christian? Not by any standard I can imagine. Did he think making Abortion illegal might win him some Republican votes, Yes. No, Orac is right about this one - they all appoint the most biased people possible to the USSC. It's something that needs to change. |
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Post by borgr0 on Jul 14, 2024 15:11:02 GMT
The shooter, it turns out, is a registered Republican. However, he donated to a liberal PAC before he registered as a Republican, presumably to vote in the primary against Trump and stop him.
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Post by Steve on Jul 14, 2024 15:25:48 GMT
In other news about this, good work by the Secret Service sniper that took the shooter out
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Post by borgr0 on Jul 14, 2024 15:53:21 GMT
... As for the Barnett formula, it is not means tested it does nothing to lift anyone out of poverty, and devolution entrenches division without making the UK more democratic.
Get rid of both, have PR and direct democracy instead.
Now regarding the Yanks, thousands of people are killed in mass shootings in the USA, Trump did nothing about that on his watch, and boasted about having done nothing about it.
Now he's nearly been killed because of the very system he supports.
If I were Biden I'd be making that point and calling for better controls.
Controls don't mean no guns, controls mean fewer mass shootings.
PR has its own problems, also what would you replace the Barnett formula with? Also IIRC you have used violent rhetoric against other groups and not just Putin/Russia either. You say Trump did nothing about mass shootings in the USA, but maybe you didn't know he moved to ban gun bump stocks? He also tried to place more restrictions on guns but the NRA threatened to run a huge campaign against him and he u-turned on that. He didn't boast about doing nothing about mass shootings IIRC. The gun controls in the USA are more than sufficient; the problem is enforcement of the existing laws in most states unfortunately. However, I'd prefer Estonian or Swiss style gun laws which are more stringent |
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Post by borgr0 on Jul 14, 2024 15:55:24 GMT
In other news about this, good work by the Secret Service sniper that took the shooter out How did he get so close to even commit the shooting? A lot of heads will roll for this |
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