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Post by dappy on Aug 8, 2024 8:22:35 GMT
They have a probably even more daft system than we do.
Harris interestingly has just moved to favourite on Betfair. Marginal but at the moment momentum seems to be her way. Long time to go though.
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Post by Steve on Aug 8, 2024 8:27:11 GMT
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Post by Steve on Aug 9, 2024 19:47:15 GMT
More indications that Trump is suffering from dementia as he confuses Willie Brown with Jerry Brown and remembers an event that never happened. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c985enjgdy9oSan Francisco's former mayor Willie Brown has dismissed as "fiction" Donald Trump's story that they once endured a scary helicopter trip together.
The former president said on Thursday that he and Mr Brown "went down" in a helicopter together and Mr Brown was "a little concerned".
"We thought maybe this was the end," Trump said. "We were in a helicopter... and there was an emergency landing. This was not a pleasant landing."
Mr Brown, 90, told US media he had never shared a helicopter with Trump, adding: "I don't think I'd want to ride on the same helicopter with him".
Trump, 78, appeared to be confusing Mr Brown with Jerry Brown, California's former governor, with whom he shared a helicopter ride in 2018 to visit the aftermath of the Paradise wildfires. Gavin Newsom, the current state governor, was also on the flight.
Both men told US media there was no emergency landing or danger. "I call complete BS, |
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 10, 2024 7:56:43 GMT
It doesn't matter. He's made shit up his whole life.
His base will never forsake him.
The question is, are independents in the major swing states going to vote for him?
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Post by Steve on Aug 10, 2024 7:59:25 GMT
Exactly, it's always all about the middle ground
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Post by Zany on Aug 10, 2024 8:03:00 GMT
It doesn't matter. He's made shit up his whole life. His base will never forsake him. The question is, are independents in the major swing states going to vote for him? It does matter, because it pushes more borderline voters away from him. Those will include many republican voters who are nervous of him regaining power. |
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 10, 2024 8:05:08 GMT
Exactly, it's always all about the middle ground So few votes actually matter in the US. Half a dozen swing states. Everyone else might as well not bother. |
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Post by Steve on Aug 10, 2024 8:08:00 GMT
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Post by Zany on Aug 10, 2024 8:31:25 GMT
Exactly, it's always all about the middle ground So few votes actually matter in the US. Half a dozen swing states. Everyone else might as well not bother. But is this a fault of the system or the fact that most states always vote the same way? Surely the same is true in the UK. |
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Post by montegriffo on Aug 10, 2024 9:48:10 GMT
So few votes actually matter in the US. Half a dozen swing states. Everyone else might as well not bother. But is this a fault of the system or the fact that most states always vote the same way? Surely the same is true in the UK. There are a lot more than 6 swing constituencies in the UK. Our constituencies are much more equal in terms of population than electoral college votes too. |
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Post by ammonite on Aug 10, 2024 10:23:12 GMT
I look at the U.S elections mainy from two perspectives, (1) politically and (2) as a Briton and a European.
From a UK / European point of view, the number 1 choice for me has got to be Harris, because only the Democrats seem truly interested in keeping the well established bond that has always been between the UK, Europe and especially through NATO.
President Putin will jump for joy if Donald Trump becomes President, a fractious relationship between one side of the Atlantic and the other is just what Putin wants.
Am heartned by the fact that with three months to go, Harris has the edge, but anything could happen, fingers crossed.
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Post by Zany on Aug 10, 2024 11:50:01 GMT
But is this a fault of the system or the fact that most states always vote the same way? Surely the same is true in the UK. There are a lot more than 6 swing constituencies in the UK. Our constituencies are much more equal in terms of population than electoral college votes too. Good point Steve hadn't considered that. |
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Post by Steve on Aug 11, 2024 1:14:05 GMT
Err yes I had considered the bleeding obvious
It's still all about the middle ground. There's actually about 20 states that have swung (ie not always voted for same party) in recent times. In this election there's actually about 7 states considered to be that middle ground battleground but you then have about 10 more that would be in it if either party just did not campaign there.
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Post by Zany on Aug 11, 2024 6:06:54 GMT
Err yes I had considered the bleeding obvious It's still all about the middle ground. There's actually about 20 states that have swung (ie not always voted for same party) in recent times. In this election there's actually about 7 states considered to be that middle ground battleground but you then have about 10 more that would be in it if either party just did not campaign there. Apologies Steve. My line should have read. Good point Steve, I hadn't considered that. Both written badly and addressed to the wrong person. What am I like. |
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Post by Steve on Aug 11, 2024 9:46:14 GMT
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