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Post by RedRum on Apr 2, 2024 16:14:24 GMT
7 aid workers killed by the IDF after delivering 100 tons of aid to Gaza.
This is despite the IDF having detailed knowledge of their itinerary.
How many aid workers, hospital staff, teachers journalist have to die before the world wakes up to what Israel is doing?
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Post by montegriffo on Apr 2, 2024 16:29:00 GMT
I think the world knows what they are doing. The question is when are they going to stand up to Israel? They need to face real consequences. Sanctions, arms embargoes etc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2024 22:11:26 GMT
I think the world knows what they are doing. The question is when are they going to stand up to Israel? They need to face real consequences. Sanctions, arms embargoes etc. The problem is that automatic support for Israel has become the default setting in both the UK and America, and this has taken zero account of the extent to which Israel is governed by a far right extremist government. But it's actions in war have exposed it's true nature. Few people ever believed that Hamas were the good guys but Israel was automatically assumed to be so. Their actions have exposed them for who they really are every bit as much as the actions of Hamas on October 7th exposed them for who they really are. Both sides are the problem here, but only one is backed unquestioningly by the west. We need to cease our support forthwith without an immediate commitment to abandon all illegal settlements and express a willingness to negotiate a two state solution. And as a quid pro quo for Hamas to surrender all it's hostages. If either side fails to do this, then we should withdraw all support for anyone out there who is failing to cooperate and apply whatever pressure we can on the recalcitrant parties. Any two state solution will have to include security guarantees for Israel so that attacks from any Palestinian state upon Israel are responded to by the west, whilst Israel itself forgoes any response. And with tough sanctions against either side attacking the other. The reason Israel has a far right government is down to repeated missile attacks from across it's borders. This must stop and be made to stop as part of any two state solution.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2024 22:14:04 GMT
I think the world knows what they are doing. The question is when are they going to stand up to Israel? They need to face real consequences. Sanctions, arms embargoes etc. The problem is that automatic support for Israel has become the default setting in both the UK and America, and this has taken zero account of the extent to which Israel is governed by a far right extremist government. But it's actions in war have exposed it's true nature. Few people ever believed that Hamas were the good guys but Israel was automatically assumed to be so. Their actions have exposed them for who they really are every bit as much as the actions of Hamas on October 7th exposed them for who they really are. Both sides are the problem here, but only one is backed unquestioningly by the west. We need to cease our support forthwith without an immediate commitment to abandon all illegal settlements and express a willingness to negotiate a two state solution. And as a quid pro quo for Hamas to surrender all it's hostages. If either side fails to do this, then we should withdraw all support for anyone out there who is failing to cooperate and apply whatever pressure we can on the recalcitrant parties. Any two state solution will have to include security guarantees for Israel so that attacks from any Palestinian state upon Israel are responded to by the west, whilst Israel itself forgoes any response. And with tough sanctions against either side attacking the other. The reason Israel has a far right government is down to repeated missile attacks from across it's borders. This must stop and be made to stop as part of any two state solution. Likewise total withdrawal from all the illegal settlements, at gunpoint if that is what it takes.
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Post by RedRum on Apr 3, 2024 6:07:14 GMT
Apparently where were 3 rockets fired and 3 cars destroyed - pinpoint accuracy it seems.
Israel will do anything to hamper aid getting to starving people, including murdering British citizens.
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Post by delphicoracle on Apr 4, 2024 16:13:39 GMT
It is time the world stopped being afraid of the accusation of antisemitism and started to expect Israel to behave like any other democratic state.
It is going to be a seminal year in politics with elections in the USA, the UK and I hope, Israel. We have a chance to move forward and away from war...or backwards and cause some serious shit to hit the fan.
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Post by RedRum on Apr 10, 2024 17:28:10 GMT
It appears, as the facts come out, a single drone was responsible. It attacked the first car and those that survived ran to the second car and the drone targeted the second car, those that survived that ran to the third car and again the drone attacked killing all of them.
Drones are operated by a people and it is therefore plain to see that this was a targeted attack on aid workers and not as the IDF say a 'terrible' accident.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2024 11:11:21 GMT
It appears, as the facts come out, a single drone was responsible. It attacked the first car and those that survived ran to the second car and the drone targeted the second car, those that survived that ran to the third car and again the drone attacked killing all of them. Drones are operated by a people and it is therefore plain to see that this was a targeted attack on aid workers and not as the IDF say a 'terrible' accident. It has been happening to Palestinian aid workers from the start. This was no accident. The only actual error the Israelis probably made is that they likely mistook them for Palestinian aid workers. And have thus roused the ire of the west because the death toll included three Britons and an American. Sadly it seems it takes our own being killed before we even begin to fully recognise the enormity of what is going on.
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Post by vinny on Jun 18, 2024 22:16:39 GMT
I support the right of Israel to exist, but it has no right whatsoever to commit war crimes against Palestinian civilians and foreign aid workers who have the same right to exist.
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