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Post by RedRum on Nov 21, 2024 13:21:00 GMT
The ICC has issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant and a warrant was also issued for Mohammed Deif, although the Israeli military has said he was killed in an air strike in Gaza in July.
This has thrown a cat amongst the pigeons.
Will the UK government now support the ICC and confirm that if any of these three men come to the UK they will be arrested.
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Post by Steve on Nov 21, 2024 13:24:03 GMT
The ICC has issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant and a warrant was also issued for Mohammed Deif, although the Israeli military has said he was killed in an air strike in Gaza in July. This has thrown a cat amongst the pigeons. Will the UK government now support the ICC and confirm that if any of these three men come to the UK they will be arrested. We can hope so but disappointment likely |
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Post by RedRum on Nov 21, 2024 14:17:50 GMT
The ICC is now accused of being an anti Semitic organisation.
Does anyone still believe accusations of anti Semitism any more?
Personally, I think Israel has overplayed it's hand - criticise Israel seems to be proof of anti Semitism.
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Post by Steve on Nov 21, 2024 17:35:33 GMT
The ICC is now accused of being an anti Semitic organisation. Does anyone still believe accusations of anti Semitism any more? Personally, I think Israel has overplayed it's hand - criticise Israel seems to be proof of anti Semitism. It's a fiasco. That to criticise Israel is to criticise every Jew line is complete BS but so may fall for it and a large number repeat it. |
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Post by totheleft on Nov 22, 2024 5:13:41 GMT
i find it strange they issued a warrant for the hamas leader when according to the IDF HE was killed in a air raid .
maybe the icc know something and hes alive
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Post by RedRum on Nov 22, 2024 7:02:19 GMT
i find it strange they issued a warrant for the hamas leader when according to the IDF HE was killed in a air raid . maybe the icc know something and hes alive Apparently they have been able to confirm the deaths of 2 Hamas leaders they wanted to indict but not the other one, so it's a case of 'just in case'. |
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Post by RedRum on Nov 22, 2024 7:08:08 GMT
Israel and the US are complaining about the equivalence between Israel, a democratic state and Hamas, a terrorist organisation.
My understanding of the term terrorism must be wanting.
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Post by RedRum on Nov 23, 2024 6:55:46 GMT
Here's a thought.
Who would you rather be going to the Haigh,
An Israeli leader or a Hamas leader?
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Post by Steve on Nov 23, 2024 10:57:51 GMT
Well both but if I had to choose then clearly Hamas as they are utterly evil whereas Netanyahu and his crew are utterly callous.
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Post by Robert on Nov 23, 2024 19:12:00 GMT
The Palestinian Arabs have considerable influence in the United Nations and therefore consequently its structures including its Court. The strategy is to envelope Israel in a Lawfare straightjacket; the warrants issued against Israeli politicians are just one consequence of this.
How does the U.N. falsehood and Lawfare-straightjacket campaign against Israel, work:
> Applying alleged "evidence" from Israel's enemies in this case Hamas, to baseless charges of intentional alleged "genocide" and alleged starvation in Gaza;
> Falsely regarding Israel/the Jewish people as illegally-occupying "Judah and Samaria" ("West Bank, the");
> Then, based on that consequently, Israeli homes and villages (referred to in the Media (and strangely also in Israel) erroneously as "settlements"), within "Judah and Samaria" ("West Bank") become: "illegal in International law";
> Then, consequential U.N. Court decisions based in those biased U.N. policies.
How does the U.N. bias against Israel work?:
The Palestinian Arabs start-off in U.N. votes by enjoying a block-vote in their favor of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation” and follow its policies when voting in the U.N.), and influence of Arab oil money with consequential trading power; compared to Israel’s one vote.
In the past, Security Council resolutions passed against Israel are typically during the tenure of U.S. Democratic Party Presidents who decide not to use their veto to protect Israel from unjust resolutions.
Accepted international constitutional law is that Laws must not be passed that are intrinsically-unjust that persecute a minority, as are the U.N. decisions against Israel, which:
falsely-validate the unverifiable-claims of the Palestinian Arabs, and which
support "Hamas" a terrorist organization.
An example of unjust-laws were the Nuremberg Laws of Nazi Germany which persecuted the Jews.
Due to its political bias against Israel, the U.N. and its structures including its Court, are institutionally anti-Semitic.
Robert, Nov 24, 2024 at 2:12am
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Post by RedRum on Nov 24, 2024 7:49:48 GMT
The Palestinian Arabs have considerable influence in the United Nations and therefore consequently its structures including its Court. The strategy is to envelope Israel in a Lawfare straightjacket; the warrants issued against Israeli politicians are just one consequence of this. How does the U.N. falsehood and Lawfare-straightjacket campaign against Israel, work:
> Applying alleged "evidence" from Israel's enemies in this case Hamas, to baseless charges of intentional alleged "genocide" and alleged starvation in Gaza; > Falsely regarding Israel/the Jewish people as illegally-occupying "Judah and Samaria" ("West Bank, the"); > Then, based on that consequently, Israeli homes and villages (referred to in the Media (and strangely also in Israel) erroneously as "settlements"), within "Judah and Samaria" ("West Bank") become: "illegal in International law"; > Then, consequential U.N. Court decisions based in those biased U.N. policies. How does the U.N. bias against Israel work?:
The Palestinian Arabs start-off in U.N. votes by enjoying a block-vote in their favor of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation” and follow its policies when voting in the U.N.), and influence of Arab oil money with consequential trading power; compared to Israel’s one vote. In the past, Security Council resolutions passed against Israel are typically during the tenure of U.S. Democratic Party Presidents who decide not to use their veto to protect Israel from unjust resolutions. Accepted international constitutional law is that Laws must not be passed that are intrinsically-unjust that persecute a minority, as are the U.N. decisions against Israel, which: falsely-validate the unverifiable-claims of the Palestinian Arabs, and which support "Hamas" a terrorist organization. An example of unjust-laws were the Nuremberg Laws of Nazi Germany which persecuted the Jews. Due to its political bias against Israel, the U.N. and its structures including its Court, are institutionally anti-Semitic. It would be nice if we had your thoughts, though. Palestine is not a country and therefore has very little influence over the UN. The arrest warrants issued have been issued based on evidence that the court has had presented to it. Anti Semitism are acts committed against Jewish people because they are Jewish people, the court does not want to arrest all Jewish people but the leaders of the State of Israel. By 'your' reckoning the arrest warrant for the Hamas leader must be Islamophobic, which of course is rubbish . |
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Post by Robert on Nov 24, 2024 20:13:32 GMT
The Palestinian Arabs have considerable influence in the United Nations and therefore consequently its structures including its Court. The strategy is to envelope Israel in a Lawfare straightjacket; the warrants issued against Israeli politicians are just one consequence of this. How does the U.N. falsehood and Lawfare-straightjacket campaign against Israel, work:
> Applying alleged "evidence" from Israel's enemies in this case Hamas, to baseless charges of intentional alleged "genocide" and alleged starvation in Gaza; > Falsely regarding Israel/the Jewish people as illegally-occupying "Judah and Samaria" ("West Bank, the"); > Then, based on that consequently, Israeli homes and villages (referred to in the Media (and strangely also in Israel) erroneously as "settlements"), within "Judah and Samaria" ("West Bank") become: "illegal in International law"; > Then, consequential U.N. Court decisions based in those biased U.N. policies. How does the U.N. bias against Israel work?:
The Palestinian Arabs start-off in U.N. votes by enjoying a block-vote in their favor of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation” and follow its policies when voting in the U.N.), and influence of Arab oil money with consequential trading power; compared to Israel’s one vote. In the past, Security Council resolutions passed against Israel are typically during the tenure of U.S. Democratic Party Presidents who decide not to use their veto to protect Israel from unjust resolutions. Accepted international constitutional law is that Laws must not be passed that are intrinsically-unjust that persecute a minority, as are the U.N. decisions against Israel, which: falsely-validate the unverifiable-claims of the Palestinian Arabs, and which support "Hamas" a terrorist organization. An example of unjust-laws were the Nuremberg Laws of Nazi Germany which persecuted the Jews. Due to its political bias against Israel, the U.N. and its structures including its Court, are institutionally anti-Semitic. It would be nice if we had your thoughts, though. Palestine is not a country and therefore has very little influence over the UN. The arrest warrants issued have been issued based on evidence that the court has had presented to it. Anti Semitism are acts committed against Jewish people because they are Jewish people, the court does not want to arrest all Jewish people but the leaders of the State of Israel. By 'your' reckoning the arrest warrant for the Hamas leader must be Islamophobic, which of course is rubbish . Contributor "RedRum" wrote: "It would be nice if we had your thoughts, though.": Thank you. What I put, were my thoughts. If the contributor is implying I copied from someone else, that is untrue. Contributor "RedRum" also wrote: "Palestine is not a country and therefore has very little influence over the UN.": I've explained they are supported by a block-vote in their favour in the U.N.; that amounts to "influence". Contributor "RedRum" wrote: "The arrest warrants issued have been issued based on evidence that the court has had presented to it.": From sources biased against Israel; from Israel's enemies; from terrorist organizations. Due to the overwhelming political bias in the U.N. against Israel, and the consequential unjust resolutions passed against it, including the denial of Jewish self-determination in the Jewish people's ancestral homeland of Israel, these policies amount to institutionalized anti-Semitism. Robert, Nov 25, 2024 at 3:13am |
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Post by RedRum on Nov 26, 2024 11:34:44 GMT
It would be nice if we had your thoughts, though. Palestine is not a country and therefore has very little influence over the UN. The arrest warrants issued have been issued based on evidence that the court has had presented to it. Anti Semitism are acts committed against Jewish people because they are Jewish people, the court does not want to arrest all Jewish people but the leaders of the State of Israel. By 'your' reckoning the arrest warrant for the Hamas leader must be Islamophobic, which of course is rubbish . Contributor "RedRum" wrote: "It would be nice if we had your thoughts, though.": Thank you. What I put, were my thoughts. If the contributor is implying I copied from someone else, that is untrue. Contributor "RedRum" also wrote: "Palestine is not a country and therefore has very little influence over the UN.": I've explained they are supported by a block-vote in their favour in the U.N.; that amounts to "influence". Contributor "RedRum" wrote: "The arrest warrants issued have been issued based on evidence that the court has had presented to it.": From sources biased against Israel; from Israel's enemies; from terrorist organizations. Due to the overwhelming political bias in the U.N. against Israel, and the consequential unjust resolutions passed against it, including the denial of Jewish self-determination in the Jewish people's ancestral homeland of Israel, these policies amount to institutionalized anti-Semitism. Your posts are filled with pasted text from Israeli sources hence the references to biblical text. You stated quite clearly that "The Palestinian Arabs have considerable influence in the United Nations" this is not fact, they may have support but they have very little influence themselves. Have you seen the evidence that has been presented to the ICC? There is enough evidence both video and testimonial to show that Israel is committing war crimes. What evidence do you have for political bias in the UN? |
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Post by RedRum on Nov 26, 2024 11:36:03 GMT
You really could not make this up.
Israel are claiming that the reason they cannot be carrying out war crimes is because they are a democracy???
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Post by borg0 on Nov 26, 2024 12:59:19 GMT
They are scared and think the whole world wants to wipe them out
That the nearby Arab states all want them all dead
That the rest of Europe wants to expel every Jew
They look upon history and see nothing but blood and hostility to their kind
Are they wrong? History shows exactly that, they are scared for their lives
We must look kindly on them and think how we'd feel in their shoes
We are imperfect humans
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