Steve
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Post by Steve on Nov 26, 2024 13:31:43 GMT
Paranoia is always one of the worst mental issues. People do stupid and too often evil things when so afflicted whether as individuals or as groups.
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Post by RedRum on Nov 26, 2024 14:18:11 GMT
They are scared and think the whole world wants to wipe them out That the nearby Arab states all want them all dead That the rest of Europe wants to expel every Jew They look upon history and see nothing but blood and hostility to their kind Are they wrong? History shows exactly that, they are scared for their lives We must look kindly on them and think how we'd feel in their shoes We are imperfect humans That's one theory and a perfectly acceptable one at that but given that they have the, probably, largest and most powerful country in the world backing and arming them it is hard to really think that is true. It might just be that they want more land. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 26, 2024 16:29:36 GMT
Worth remembering this bit of wisdom in of all place Star Wars
'Fear is the path to the dark side … fear leads to anger … anger leads to hate … hate leads to suffering.'
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Post by Robert on Nov 26, 2024 19:25:41 GMT
Contributor "RedRum" wrote: "It would be nice if we had your thoughts, though.": Thank you. What I put, were my thoughts. If the contributor is implying I copied from someone else, that is untrue. Contributor "RedRum" also wrote: "Palestine is not a country and therefore has very little influence over the UN.": I've explained they are supported by a block-vote in their favour in the U.N.; that amounts to "influence". Contributor "RedRum" wrote: "The arrest warrants issued have been issued based on evidence that the court has had presented to it.": From sources biased against Israel; from Israel's enemies; from terrorist organizations. Due to the overwhelming political bias in the U.N. against Israel, and the consequential unjust resolutions passed against it, including the denial of Jewish self-determination in the Jewish people's ancestral homeland of Israel, these policies amount to institutionalized anti-Semitism. Your posts are filled with pasted text from Israeli sources hence the references to biblical text. You stated quite clearly that "The Palestinian Arabs have considerable influence in the United Nations" this is not fact, they may have support but they have very little influence themselves. Have you seen the evidence that has been presented to the ICC? There is enough evidence both video and testimonial to show that Israel is committing war crimes. What evidence do you have for political bias in the UN? Contributor "RedRum" wrote: "Your posts are filled with pasted text from Israeli sources hence the references to biblical text.": My posts are my own research and when quoting from others, I both identify the source, and provide the URL. Contributor "RedRum" also wrote: "You stated quite clearly that "The Palestinian Arabs have considerable influence in the United Nations" this is not fact, they may have support but they have very little influence themselves. [...] What evidence do you have for political bias in the UN?": I've explained they are supported by a block-vote in their favour in the U.N.; that amounts to "influence": The “Palestinian” Arabs start-off in U.N. votes by enjoying a block-vote in their favour of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation” and follow its policies when voting in the U.N.), and influence of Arab oil money with consequential trading power; compared to Israel being just one country. How does the built-in U.N. pro-Arab block-vote work?:
For example, in the France 24 interview of December 11, 2017 with President (now former President) Mahamadou Issoufou of the Republic of the Niger, he was asked for his country’s stance on the recognition by the United States of America that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. He replied (English version): English translation from France 24 Interview: Subsequently, Niger was one of the countries which voted for the December 21, 2017 U.N. [non-binding] Resolution ES-10/L.22, declaring the U.S. recognition of the status of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital to be “null and void”; a resolution thus clearly attempting to violate the right of the U.S. to make its own sovereign decisions. Contributor "RedRum" wrote: "Have you seen the evidence that has been presented to the ICC? There is enough evidence both video and testimonial to show that Israel is committing war crimes.": In order to prove "genocide", intention must be proved. Israel issues warnings to civilians requesting them to leave the intended target area. This is inconsistent with the "intention" required for "genocide". Contributor "RedRum" inquires if I have seen the evidence. Neither of us have, yet the contributor appears to assume Israel to be guilty. It is for the party alleging crime, to prove it. Robert |
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Steve
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Post by Steve on Nov 26, 2024 20:07:05 GMT
TLDR
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Post by RedRum on Nov 27, 2024 9:18:59 GMT
In order to prove "genocide", intention must be proved. Israel issues warnings to civilians requesting them to leave the intended target area. This is inconsistent with the "intention" required for "genocide". Contributor "RedRum" inquires if I have seen the evidence. Neither of us have, yet the contributor appears to assume Israel to be guilty. It is for the party alleging crime, to prove it. RobertThere is no evidence that Israel issued warning to civilians to leave the areas about to be attacked, just their say so. I do believe Israel are committing genocide but the courts will have to decide the point. It has been proved that Israel are plausibly committing genocide this is a stain on their nation that will last for decades. The ICJ has said there is a plausible case that Israel is committing genocide therefore it is incumbent on all governments to stop giving them aid. |
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Post by Robert on Nov 27, 2024 20:48:51 GMT
The ICC is now accused of being an anti Semitic organisation. Does anyone still believe accusations of anti Semitism any more? Personally, I think Israel has overplayed it's hand - criticise Israel seems to be proof of anti Semitism. That is an accusation which is often made - That any criticism or accusation of Israel is described as anti-Semitism. When are falsehoods (often alleged as “criticism”) against Jews/Israel, typically due to anti-Semitism?: UNSUBSTANTIATED-allegations that insult the reader’s intelligence, by being typically-alleged, with: No detail(s), no objective-sources; zero evidence. Robert |
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Post by RedRum on Nov 28, 2024 7:22:42 GMT
The ICC is now accused of being an anti Semitic organisation. Does anyone still believe accusations of anti Semitism any more? Personally, I think Israel has overplayed it's hand - criticise Israel seems to be proof of anti Semitism. That is an accusation which is often made. That any criticism or accusation of Israel is described as anti-Semitism. When are falsehoods (often alleged as “criticism”) against Jews/Israel, typically due to anti-Semitism?: UNSUBSTANTIATED-allegations that insult the reader’s intelligence, by being typically-alleged, with: No detail(s), no objective-sources; zero evidence. RobertMost Jewish people live outside of Israel therefore the accusation of anti Semitism when referring to Israeli actions is anti Semitic. |
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