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Post by Zany on Oct 2, 2024 7:19:14 GMT
Looks like no stopping it now.
Keir Starmer states the UK stands square behind Israel.
So Netanyahu has won, apparently none of the things Israel has done prior to this count against them.
But now Iran is involved are we forced to choose the lesser of two evils? Surely this is the reason Israel keeps stepping up the provocation.
Thousands of innocent civilians to be sacrificed again.
One bit of good news Netanyahu wont have to go to his trial for fraud etc while he's so busy killing people.
My opinion YUK!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2024 7:24:01 GMT
I am much more disgusting and yuky than all that
Pray for peace, I won't condemn any of them at all nor make a negative assessment of them, they are only doing what they think is right, Bibi believes it's an existential fight for the Jewish homeland and in many ways he has been right in the past, all the Arab states tried to take out Israel and failed only because Israel fought back
And equally, the Palestinians are right they are having genocide committed against them. The killing is unacceptable and has to stop.
Same for the Lebanese now.
Equally, Keir Starmer is doing the best he can at the UN and elsewhere to prevent outright war and warn them off of it.
And Iran and Hezbollah also believed they were helping the Palestinians fight for statehood.
We should just pray for peace, that's all, we should be for no war
I will defend all of them, Netanyahu, Hamas, Hezbollah and the Iranian mullahs. They are doing what they think is right for their respective peoples. In a way, none of them are wrong and in a way, war is always to be prevented at almost any cost
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Post by Steve on Oct 3, 2024 17:29:46 GMT
Looks like no stopping it now. Keir Starmer states the UK stands square behind Israel. . . No he didn't. He said: '"I utterly condemn this attempt by the Iranian regime to harm innocent Israelis, to escalate this incredibly dangerous situation and push the region ever closer to the brink, We stand with Israel and we recognise her right to self-defence in the face of this aggression."No endoresement of the more dubious actions of Israel of which there are many. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 3, 2024 17:34:26 GMT
As for the events this last week it's a race to the bottom of the well of immorality and illegality by Netanyahu and the religious fundamentalists that keep him in power versus the Iranian regime, its proxies and the religious fundamentalists that are their power.
The Iranian + proxies side are clearly the worse but Israel should not escape censure for its despicable killing of civilians.
Will this be 'all out war'? I doubt it this year but the real risk continues that eventually it will.
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Post by Zany on Oct 3, 2024 19:59:56 GMT
Looks like no stopping it now. Keir Starmer states the UK stands square behind Israel. . . No he didn't. He said: '"I utterly condemn this attempt by the Iranian regime to harm innocent Israelis, to escalate this incredibly dangerous situation and push the region ever closer to the brink, We stand with Israel and we recognise her right to self-defence in the face of this aggression."No endorsement of the more dubious actions of Israel of which there are many. Certainly no condemnation and not even qualification. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2024 1:36:08 GMT
Keir is doing the best he can and so is Netanyahu
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Post by Robert on Nov 24, 2024 22:07:26 GMT
Looks like no stopping it now. Keir Starmer states the UK stands square behind Israel. So Netanyahu has won, apparently none of the things Israel has done prior to this count against them. But now Iran is involved are we forced to choose the lesser of two evils? Surely this is the reason Israel keeps stepping up the provocation. Thousands of innocent civilians to be sacrificed again. One bit of good news Netanyahu wont have to go to his trial for fraud etc while he's so busy killing people. My opinion YUK! Contributor "Zany" wrote: "[...] the things Israel has done [...]": What "things" would that be, apart from defending and deterring further attack? I invite the contributor to provide objective-evidence, for what I assume would be the usual many allegations typically alleged by pro Palestinian Arabs devoid of any objective-evidence. Contributor "Zany" also wrote: "[...] now Iran is involved [...]": Iran assisted Hamas to carry out the October 7th, 2023 massacre. Iran also conducts what may be described as an "Axis of Evil" against Israel, by assisting: Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, the Houthis. Contributor "Zany" wrote: "[...] innocent civilians [...]": Yet are the Gazan Palestinian Arabs, if it be they to whom the contributor refers, really so "innocent"? A survey has been carried out on "Palestinian" Arab views on the October 7, 2023 massacre, with highlights of the results reported by ILTV, Israel Daily News of November 19, 2023: Contributor "Zany" also wrote: "Netanyahu wont have to go to his trial for fraud etc while he's so busy killing people": It was the Palestinian Arabs who started the current conflict on October 7th, 2023. The trials in question have therefore not been delayed by the defendant, but by enemy action against Israel. |
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Post by Robert on Nov 24, 2024 22:12:03 GMT
As for the events this last week it's a race to the bottom of the well of immorality and illegality by Netanyahu and the religious fundamentalists that keep him in power versus the Iranian regime, its proxies and the religious fundamentalists that are their power. The Iranian + proxies side are clearly the worse but Israel should not escape censure for its despicable killing of civilians. Will this be 'all out war'? I doubt it this year but the real risk continues that eventually it will. Contributor "Steve" wrote: "[... Israel's] despicable killing of civilians [...]": Israel does not target civilians. Casualties occur when Palestinian Arab combatants use civilians as human shields, which can refer to, for example: hiding or carrying out military warfare in the midst of, or around, or under, civilians or civilian infrastructure. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 25, 2024 0:17:21 GMT
As for the events this last week it's a race to the bottom of the well of immorality and illegality by Netanyahu and the religious fundamentalists that keep him in power versus the Iranian regime, its proxies and the religious fundamentalists that are their power. The Iranian + proxies side are clearly the worse but Israel should not escape censure for its despicable killing of civilians. Will this be 'all out war'? I doubt it this year but the real risk continues that eventually it will. Contributor "Steve" wrote: "[... Israel's] despicable killing of civilians [...]": Israel does not target civilians. Casualties occur when Palestinian Arab combatants use civilians as human shields, which can refer to, for example: hiding or carrying out military warfare in the midst of, or around, or under, civilians or civilian infrastructure. Casualties occur when Israel thinks it's just fine and dandy to kill everyone in an area if they might just kill one Hamas person (who may not even be a combatant) How would you feel if your nearest and dearest were killed by the police blowing up a bank because a hostage taker was inside. You'd be outraged so please ezplain why you're so sanguine about seeing thousands and thousands of Arabs killed. Is it because you don't think they count as human beings? That's what Israel's leadership thinks. |
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Post by Robert on Nov 25, 2024 20:20:57 GMT
Contributor "Steve" wrote: "[... Israel's] despicable killing of civilians [...]": Israel does not target civilians. Casualties occur when Palestinian Arab combatants use civilians as human shields, which can refer to, for example: hiding or carrying out military warfare in the midst of, or around, or under, civilians or civilian infrastructure. Casualties occur when Israel thinks it's just fine and dandy to kill everyone in an area if they might just kill one Hamas person (who may not even be a combatant) How would you feel if your nearest and dearest were killed by the police blowing up a bank because a hostage taker was inside. You'd be outraged so please ezplain why you're so sanguine about seeing thousands and thousands of Arabs killed. Is it because you don't think they count as human beings? That's what Israel's leadership thinks. Israel issues warnings to request civilians to vacate the immediate combat area. I find that those who resort to emotional responses, may tend to possibly lack verifiable-debate. |
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Post by vinny on Nov 25, 2024 21:24:37 GMT
Hamas won't let them out, Israel then bombs them anyway.
Bastards on both sides.
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Post by morayloon on Nov 25, 2024 23:30:57 GMT
Casualties occur when Israel thinks it's just fine and dandy to kill everyone in an area if they might just kill one Hamas person (who may not even be a combatant) How would you feel if your nearest and dearest were killed by the police blowing up a bank because a hostage taker was inside. You'd be outraged so please ezplain why you're so sanguine about seeing thousands and thousands of Arabs killed. Is it because you don't think they count as human beings? That's what Israel's leadership thinks. Israel issues warnings to request civilians to vacate the immediate combat area. I find that those who resort to emotional responses, may tend to possibly lack verifiable-debate. You believe everything the Israeli propaganda machine says? They are proven liars, right from the shit they spouted about the results of the Hamas attacks. Apart from the blind eyes of the USA, UK, Germany, and several others, the whole world sees Israel exactly for what it is - a rogue, terrorist state. |
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Post by morayloon on Nov 25, 2024 23:32:37 GMT
Hamas won't let them out, Israel then bombs them anyway. Bastards on both sides. It is the Israelis who won't let Palestinians leave. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 25, 2024 23:34:09 GMT
Casualties occur when Israel thinks it's just fine and dandy to kill everyone in an area if they might just kill one Hamas person (who may not even be a combatant) How would you feel if your nearest and dearest were killed by the police blowing up a bank because a hostage taker was inside. You'd be outraged so please ezplain why you're so sanguine about seeing thousands and thousands of Arabs killed. Is it because you don't think they count as human beings? That's what Israel's leadership thinks. Israel issues warnings to request civilians to vacate the immediate combat area. I find that those who resort to emotional responses, may tend to possibly lack verifiable-debate. That would be the same Israel that issued no such evacuations before dropping those 6,000 mass killing Mk84s, that would be the same Israel that says sending a text message to the person they think might be the head of a household is sufficient warning. That would be the same Israel that bombed and shelled people trying to evacuate those areas. That would be the same Israel that then bombed the areas it told civilians to relocate to. And the same Israel you see nothing wrong in. Won't wash off Robert. |
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