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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2024 20:54:26 GMT
You just did,anyway we shouldn’t be jailing people for being stupid or if we should then all those clapping should be jailed too. They are not directly inciting violence. Ricky Jones was. They are actively supporting it,even the amnesty woman……I want past donations back.
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Post by Steve on Sept 17, 2024 21:04:00 GMT
You just did,anyway we shouldn’t be jailing people for being stupid or if we should then all those clapping should be jailed too. If the stupidity is criminal and dangerous then yes we should be jailing them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2024 21:07:15 GMT
You just did,anyway we shouldn’t be jailing people for being stupid or if we should then all those clapping should be jailed too. They are not directly inciting violence. Ricky Jones was. Neither him nor her are afaik responsible for anyone’s deaths and neither are multi millionaires or have a foundation and are feted by many influential people. The plebs always pay the price.
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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2024 21:09:18 GMT
Okay, I've read the article. I didn't find anything to be alarmed about. The only problem for me is that a permanent record is kept even when an investigation shows that the referred individual is not in danger of becoming radicalised.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2024 23:53:24 GMT
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Post by Saint on Sept 18, 2024 0:20:59 GMT
I see your article references GB News' outstanding journalism. I take it your link is a right-wing publication. I don't see the reasons for the judge's order stated at any point, though. How are we supposed to make a judgment about the judge's order if your article doesn't cite the reasons he gave for issuing it? Why was the judge's stated reason left out? Is it because the article is just inflammatory bs? By the way, do you want us to suppose that the monsters on trial in this case weren't properly punished for their crimes just because the punishment recommendations of one of their victims wasn't applied?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2024 6:25:45 GMT
I see your article references GB News' outstanding journalism. I take it your link is a right-wing publication. Never referenced that link before got it from the FSU website,had a quick scan through some of their content. They criticise the UN for agreeing to a taliban demand that no Afghan women be allowed at the meeting between the two regards human rights held in Doha,that’s right wing? Ok. I don’t watch GB news but are you saying their content is always false or because you don’t like their political content? Would you see them closed down? I never read the sun or news of the world but I suppose they were sometimes correct,I read Private eye from time to time,when discussing the NF or the like they always used to put it under the section Mental Health,that’s a hate crime isn’t it because it’s offensive to people with real mental health issues or is it humour. I don’t always approve of bbc bias or content in the grauniad but still read boths content because there’s some good stuff there. Btw should we ban calling the guardian grauniad because it’s offensive to the dyslexic or people who struggle to spell correctly? I after reading pondered why a judge would order that comment removed which I thought someone who had suffered the way she has a reasonable request to make, No one answered so I looked and eventually found why it was removed,perhaps that should’ve been mentioned in the article. In her position she should have had legal guidance on what she could put in her impact statement,did she and if so did she ignore it? If she was advised I’d have put that what was suffered caused her to want to leave the country of her birth,would that be allowed would you judge that an unreasonable statement to make? Update forgot to add the rest of your post back in (silly old fool) it I reckon I answered it anyway
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Post by Zany on Sept 18, 2024 7:01:34 GMT
I don't like GB news because they deliberately pitch their news in such a way as to cause anger and trigger their viewers. Same with LBC.
I order to do this they only share one side of the story making their reporting not necessarily untrue, but certainly unbalanced.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2024 7:24:34 GMT
I don't like GB news because they deliberately pitch their news in such a way as to cause anger and trigger their viewers. Same with LBC. I order to do this they only share one side of the story making their reporting not necessarily untrue, but certainly unbalanced. Years ago I occasionally tuned in to Fox News USA on satellite,it was entertaining,their motto was”Fox News fair and balanced” which I translated to unfair and unbalanced. People have to be allowed to think and make their own decisions on what they see or read,you can’t legislate that . Like I say I don’t watch so can’t comment
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Post by Saint on Sept 18, 2024 7:33:13 GMT
I see your article references GB News' outstanding journalism. I take it your link is a right-wing publication. Never referenced that link before got it from the FSU website,had a quick scan through some of their content. They criticise the UN for agreeing to a taliban demand that no Afghan women be allowed at the meeting between the two regards human rights held in Doha,that’s right wing? Ok. I don’t watch GB news but are you saying their content is always false or because you don’t like their political content? Would you see them closed down? I never read the sun or news of the world but I suppose they were sometimes correct,I read Private eye from time to time,when discussing the NF or the like they always used to put it under the section Mental Health,that’s a hate crime isn’t it because it’s offensive to people with real mental health issues or is it humour. I don’t always approve of bbc bias or content in the grauniad but still read boths content because there’s some good stuff there. Btw should we ban calling the guardian grauniad because it’s offensive to the dyslexic or people who struggle to spell correctly? I after reading pondered why a judge would order that comment removed which I thought someone who had suffered the way she has a reasonable request to make, No one answered so I looked and eventually found why it was removed,perhaps that should’ve been mentioned in the article. In her position she should have had legal guidance on what she could put in her impact statement,did she and if so did she ignore it? If she was advised I’d have put that what was suffered caused her to want to leave the country of her birth,would that be allowed would you judge that an unreasonable statement to make? Update forgot to add the rest of your post back in (silly old fool) it I reckon I answered it anyway What was the reason for the judge refusing to allow the victim's recommendation to be included in the statement?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2024 7:36:59 GMT
Never referenced that link before got it from the FSU website,had a quick scan through some of their content. They criticise the UN for agreeing to a taliban demand that no Afghan women be allowed at the meeting between the two regards human rights held in Doha,that’s right wing? Ok. I don’t watch GB news but are you saying their content is always false or because you don’t like their political content? Would you see them closed down? I never read the sun or news of the world but I suppose they were sometimes correct,I read Private eye from time to time,when discussing the NF or the like they always used to put it under the section Mental Health,that’s a hate crime isn’t it because it’s offensive to people with real mental health issues or is it humour. I don’t always approve of bbc bias or content in the grauniad but still read boths content because there’s some good stuff there. Btw should we ban calling the guardian grauniad because it’s offensive to the dyslexic or people who struggle to spell correctly? I after reading pondered why a judge would order that comment removed which I thought someone who had suffered the way she has a reasonable request to make, No one answered so I looked and eventually found why it was removed,perhaps that should’ve been mentioned in the article. In her position she should have had legal guidance on what she could put in her impact statement,did she and if so did she ignore it? If she was advised I’d have put that what was suffered caused her to want to leave the country of her birth,would that be allowed would you judge that an unreasonable statement to make? Update forgot to add the rest of your post back in (silly old fool) it I reckon I answered it anyway What was the reason for the judge refusing to allow the victim's recommendation to be included in the statement? Afaik for the reasons I gave in the fifth post on this page,you replied to that didn’t you read it?
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Post by Saint on Sept 18, 2024 7:42:07 GMT
What was the reason for the judge refusing to allow the victim's recommendation to be included in the statement? Afaik for the reasons I gave in the fifth post on this page,you replied to that didn’t you read it? Yes, I read it. I'm still not clear on the reasons, though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2024 7:47:13 GMT
Afaik for the reasons I gave in the fifth post on this page,you replied to that didn’t you read it? Yes, I read it. I'm still not clear on the reasons, though. It couldn’t be clearer,in a victim impact statement you cannot refer to the sentence being given
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Post by Saint on Sept 18, 2024 7:51:35 GMT
Yes, I read it. I'm still not clear on the reasons, though. It couldn’t be clearer,in a victim impact statement you cannot refer to the sentence being given Maybe, it was your tortured syntax that confused me. Anyway, I'm glad that you can now see that your argument had no substance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2024 7:57:02 GMT
It couldn’t be clearer,in a victim impact statement you cannot refer to the sentence being given Maybe, it was your tortured syntax that confused me.
This is tortured syntax? OK
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