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Post by Amadan on Jul 22, 2024 7:18:37 GMT
Build houses now, fix pollution later, Labour to tell developers Ministers want to change ‘nutrient neutrality’ rules on building near rivers to speed up 160,000 new homes — despite blocking the Tories’ plans last year Developers will be able to start building housing projects that risk polluting rivers and work out how to deal with the problem during construction, under plans to unblock 160,000 homes. Labour has begun the process of changing environmental protections after blocking Conservative attempts to rip up “nutrient neutrality” rules before the election. Angela Rayner, the deputy prime minister, and Steve Reed, the environment secretary, have told environmental groups that current rules are “not working” and that they want to find ways of restarting housing developments that have been put on hold. www.thetimes.com/article/f2a53b3a-862d-49be-a193-a0eacb3b59f4?shareToken=8c1714bcb9c7a13662ede1725212523e |
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Post by AvonCalling on Jul 23, 2024 15:52:37 GMT
Bit like Bravermans comments...why help the enemy
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Post by Amadan on Jul 24, 2024 6:57:53 GMT
Bit like Bravermans comments...why help the enemy labour and the tories are my enemy? Are you suggesting anyone who isnt a tory shuts up for the sake of labour no matter how mental their policies or how deplorable their actions? |
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Post by totheleft on Jul 24, 2024 8:27:25 GMT
Bit like Bravermans comments...why help the enemy labour and the tories are my enemy? Are you suggesting anyone who isnt a tory shuts up for the sake of labour no matter how mental their policies or how deplorable their actions? Only mad Anti british Scottish men 😂 |
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Post by Steve on Jul 24, 2024 8:34:03 GMT
Build houses now, fix pollution later, Labour to tell developers Ministers want to change ‘nutrient neutrality’ rules on building near rivers to speed up 160,000 new homes — despite blocking the Tories’ plans last year Developers will be able to start building housing projects that risk polluting rivers and work out how to deal with the problem during construction, under plans to unblock 160,000 homes. Labour has begun the process of changing environmental protections after blocking Conservative attempts to rip up “nutrient neutrality” rules before the election. Angela Rayner, the deputy prime minister, and Steve Reed, the environment secretary, have told environmental groups that current rules are “not working” and that they want to find ways of restarting housing developments that have been put on hold. www.thetimes.com/article/f2a53b3a-862d-49be-a193-a0eacb3b59f4?shareToken=8c1714bcb9c7a13662ede1725212523eAll shows two things Environmental rules are things governments of all ilks make in easy times to look good but are discarded in tougher times - was it ever thus. Labour sees the current housing shortage as a worse and more pressing and long term corrosive problem than the long term environment. They may be right on that. So I won't criticise them for this provided they also look at a long term plan on population and what is a sustainable number for the UK. |
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Post by AvonCalling on Jul 24, 2024 9:40:45 GMT
Bit like Bravermans comments...why help the enemy labour and the tories are my enemy? Are you suggesting anyone who isnt a tory shuts up for the sake of labour no matter how mental their policies or how deplorable their actions? I mean that labour blocking Tory plans is what I would expect as I would expect Torys to block Labour plans so nothing unexpected or basically blindingly obviously predictable. How were labour able to block Tory plans given the Tory's had a majority? |
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Post by borgr0 on Jul 24, 2024 10:16:39 GMT
It's such a shame this Labour government are just going to do the same crap the Tories were going to do, except people won't oppose it half as much as they would have the Tories - because Labour are a bit smarter about managing their PR/image etc.
What a shame for England, but as Thomas notes in that other thread - even House of Lords reform has been "threatened" by Labour since what? 1910 was it? They promise the same stuff for decades - then [redictably renege
Look back to Ramsay Macdonald helping force austerity on people of Britain, when the country perceived him as a backstabber - that does seem to be the Labour MO I'm afraid.
I think Thomas said something like at least Tories stab you in the front, Labour stab you in the back. They're both bad options but at least Tories are a bit more honest about it - well they were up until Call Me Dave promised to be a softer version of Labour...
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Post by AvonCalling on Jul 24, 2024 12:24:56 GMT
It's such a shame this Labour government are just going to do the same crap the Tories were going to do, except people won't oppose it half as much as they would have the Tories - because Labour are a bit smarter about managing their PR/image etc. What a shame for England, but as Thomas notes in that other thread - even House of Lords reform has been "threatened" by Labour since what? 1910 was it? They promise the same stuff for decades - then [redictably renege Look back to Ramsay Macdonald helping force austerity on people of Britain, when the country perceived him as a backstabber - that does seem to be the Labour MO I'm afraid. I think Thomas said something like at least Tories stab you in the front, Labour stab you in the back. They're both bad options but at least Tories are a bit more honest about it - well they were up until Call Me Dave promised to be a softer version of Labour... While one can't be sure of anything I doubt labour are going to have parties whilst the rest of us are locked down...although the economist reporting of avian flu is worrying. I don't think Starmer is likely to lie to the king. I don't think Labour are going to f**k every one the way bloody Truss did. So I don't think it's the same shit as the Tory's but we shall see |
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Post by Zany on Jul 24, 2024 18:16:24 GMT
Build houses now, fix pollution later, Labour to tell developers Ministers want to change ‘nutrient neutrality’ rules on building near rivers to speed up 160,000 new homes — despite blocking the Tories’ plans last year Developers will be able to start building housing projects that risk polluting rivers and work out how to deal with the problem during construction, under plans to unblock 160,000 homes. Labour has begun the process of changing environmental protections after blocking Conservative attempts to rip up “nutrient neutrality” rules before the election. Angela Rayner, the deputy prime minister, and Steve Reed, the environment secretary, have told environmental groups that current rules are “not working” and that they want to find ways of restarting housing developments that have been put on hold. www.thetimes.com/article/f2a53b3a-862d-49be-a193-a0eacb3b59f4?shareToken=8c1714bcb9c7a13662ede1725212523eSounds reasonable. Work out how during construction. Not put in application after application to the planning office with a 9 week wait between each one and a reject on some technicality for another 9 weeks. |
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