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Post by RedRum on Jul 23, 2024 16:21:14 GMT
Seems you don't know what OPT means. It's Occupied Palestinian Territory just like I said and that excludes the state of Israel I thought we had left these silly games behind at the other place, appears for some that is to much to ask. Israel are carrying out apartheid policies against the people of Palestine, therefor Israel are an apartheid state as confirmed by the ICJ. Israel have over 60 laws discriminating against Palestinians living in Israel, therefore Israel are an apartheid state as confirmed by the ICJ. Even the 'evidence' you submitted shows that the ICJ consider Israel to be an apartheid state. I am leaving it there.
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Post by Steve on Jul 23, 2024 18:17:19 GMT
Look I made a short Jul 21, 2024 at 5:49pm post. It was 100% true and fully backed by what the ICJ said. That you and another have decided to have a go at me over 2 pages now because you don't like its truth is your problem not mine. I am not going to say 'oh yes' to a false statement, I am not going to back down when attacked with false statements.
The huge irony here is both you and I (and that other) believe Israel is very much a pariah state whose leaders should be rotting in jail. But making false/exaggerated claims about Israel just plays into those same leaders hands.
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Post by RedRum on Jul 24, 2024 5:58:10 GMT
Look I made a short Jul 21, 2024 at 5:49pm post. It was 100% true and fully backed by what the ICJ said. That you and another have decided to have a go at me over 2 pages now because you don't like its truth is your problem not mine. I am not going to say 'oh yes' to a false statement, I am not going to back down when attacked with false statements. The huge irony here is both you and I (and that other) believe Israel is very much a pariah state whose leaders should be rotting in jail. But making false/exaggerated claims about Israel just plays into those same leaders hands. Is it false or exaggerated that Israel carry out apartheid polices both in Palestine and Israel? Until Israel is called out for what it is and people stop playing down it's transgressions of international law the people of Palestine will continue to suffer. You may have the last word.
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Post by Steve on Jul 24, 2024 8:54:54 GMT
. . Until Israel is called out for what it is and people stop playing down it's transgressions of international law the people of Palestine will continue to suffer. . . I suggest we focus on that. Its unhealthy Likud/IDF axis is an evil regime that in effect works in co-operation with the even more evil Hamas to keep both in power caring not for the thousands of innocents killed, the millions of lives terrorised and the risks to wider world peace. A plague on both
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Post by borgr0 on Jul 24, 2024 8:57:50 GMT
And our govts continue to support them, whereas many make excuses for what our government do in support of them, others don't (not aimed at anyone in particular)
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Post by Steve on Jul 24, 2024 9:03:29 GMT
And our govts continue to support them, whereas many make excuses for what our government do in support of them, others don't (not aimed at anyone in particular) It's one of the (many) downsides of real politik. Major Western governments know their core support is white voters who in droves emotionally see Israel as good and arabs and palestiniians as bad. Same with their major sponsors. Don't expect that to change soon. Starmer has a 4+ year stay and a massive majority. He could do the right thing that Sunak failed over and over to do, I won't hold my breath.
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Post by Steve on Jul 26, 2024 17:01:59 GMT
Maybe I was too pessimistic. Starmer has just dropped the UK objection to an arrest warrant for Netanyahu and gang. It's not like the net is closing on Bini but such is a bit more likely now. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckkg525l93lo
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Post by borgr0 on Aug 4, 2024 15:36:14 GMT
It's a flip flop but it's a good flip flop from Starmer
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Post by Steve on Aug 13, 2024 22:02:20 GMT
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Post by vinny on Aug 14, 2024 12:00:14 GMT
Anyone supporting war crimes is not a friend of Israel. Israel needs rid of its criminal government as much as the Palestinians need rid of Hamas.
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Post by Steve on Aug 17, 2024 13:58:01 GMT
Those peace loving West Bank Israelis eh www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c623zkwd04qo 'A Palestinian man was shot dead as dozens of Israeli settlers attacked a village in the north of the occupied West Bank overnight, setting fire to houses and cars, Palestinian officials say.
The settlers - some wearing masks - also threw rocks and Molotov cocktails in the village of Jit, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said, adding that one was arrested.'This was far from the first such attack, this village alone has been attacked 27 times. You can be 100% sure that had this been villagers from Jit attacking one of those illegal Israeli settlements then the IDF would have been shooting them. In fact the Israeli National Security Minister has said the way to stop these attacks by Israel settlers is to shoot more Palestinians. Yes really. Time to end these illegal Israeli settlements and throw terrorist extremists like Itamar Ben-Gvir in jail. Instead Netanyahu will still be holding hands with him.
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