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Post by borgr0 on Jul 1, 2024 8:03:32 GMT
New StatesmanThe Welsh use the nickname "effing gething" for him, given one of his outbursts during COVID It's a standard tactic of many in Lab to accuse others of racism when their corruption is found out, unfortunately. And now the Tories use the exact same tactics with their many minority candidates at the top to deflect any criticism - just accuse others of being racist, while ironically also being racist
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Post by Amadan on Jul 12, 2024 6:43:40 GMT
New StatesmanThe Welsh use the nickname "effing gething" for him, given one of his outbursts during COVID It's a standard tactic of many in Lab to accuse others of racism when their corruption is found out, unfortunately. And now the Tories use the exact same tactics with their many minority candidates at the top to deflect any criticism - just accuse others of being racist, while ironically also being racist He appears to be the standard "low watt lightbulb" branch manager put in place by the party hq in London via the taffy branch communication channels , to keep the taffies in place and make sure the parish council doesn't get above their station. Trouble is , Gething has become the news , the red meat for the media and an embarrassment to starmer. Same old same old with this lot.
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Post by patman post on Jul 12, 2024 9:58:48 GMT
Whatever the stories around VG, they don’t appear to have worked in the Tory’s favour — how many are now left in Wales…?
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Post by Amadan on Jul 12, 2024 10:13:27 GMT
why were the tories the only other party to take part in the election?
Wasn't the labour vote down 4 %? Plaid and liberals up?
Why talk about the tories as though their result in Wales was somehow significant ?
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Post by patman post on Jul 12, 2024 11:47:21 GMT
why were the tories the only other party to take part in the election? Wasn't the labour vote down 4 %? Plaid and liberals up? Why talk about the tories as though their result in Wales was somehow significant ? Tories lost all their 14 seats and were wiped out in Wales; Labour were up nine to 27 seats; Plaid won four; LibDems one.
Tory wipe out seems to signify Welsh anti-Conservative feeling and in line with UK-wide results, despite 11% drop in turnout to 56%...
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Post by Amadan on Jul 12, 2024 12:02:44 GMT
why were the tories the only other party to take part in the election? Wasn't the labour vote down 4 %? Plaid and liberals up? Why talk about the tories as though their result in Wales was somehow significant ? Tories lost all their 14 seats and were wiped out in Wales; Labour were up nine to 27 seats; Plaid won four; LibDems one.
Tory wipe out seems to signify Welsh anti-Conservative feeling and in line with UK-wide results, despite 11% drop in turnout to 56%...
back to waffling about seats won on a dodgy electoral system after the various posts about 33.7% getting 64% of seats uk wide? The tories lost seats in Wales? My the shock of it. Im stunned.
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Post by borgr0 on Jul 12, 2024 18:13:01 GMT
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Post by montegriffo on Jul 16, 2024 15:23:11 GMT
Effing Gething effing gone.
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Post by borgr0 on Jul 16, 2024 18:09:03 GMT
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Post by Zany on Jul 16, 2024 18:25:34 GMT
I think he was most notable for...
Oh wait, the only thing I know him for is the dodgy 200k
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Post by Amadan on Jul 17, 2024 17:07:10 GMT
I think he was most notable for... Oh wait, the only thing I know him for is the dodgy 200k ...and they wonder why Wales , after a quarter of a century of the Labour Party running devolved areas , is the worst ran country in western europe.
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Post by Zany on Jul 17, 2024 17:25:55 GMT
I think he was most notable for... Oh wait, the only thing I know him for is the dodgy 200k ...and they wonder why Wales , after a quarter of a century of the Labour Party running devolved areas , is the worst ran country in western europe. So do I. I suspect its to do with poor employment, costly services due poor connections and sparse population. And the amount of funds it gets from central government.
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Post by Amadan on Jul 17, 2024 17:37:47 GMT
...and they wonder why Wales , after a quarter of a century of the Labour Party running devolved areas , is the worst ran country in western europe. So do I. I suspect its to do with poor employment, costly services due poor connections and sparse population. And the amount of funds it gets from central government. they said something along similar lines regarding ireland , or Malta. According to former British prime minister Theresa may , Malta was proof the size of a country does not limit its ambition or impact on the world stage. Malta is smaller than the island or arran , its population smaller than Edinburghs , and its GDP 5% of Scotlands. When Malta became independent of the British in 1964 , they asked how it would cope. I think Wales problems aren't down to its size , its employment , its costly services and population issues. These are symptoms of how badly the uk has run it , and labour have run devolution. As for ireland , how have they got on since leaving the uk...?
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Post by Zany on Jul 17, 2024 20:00:48 GMT
So do I. I suspect its to do with poor employment, costly services due poor connections and sparse population. And the amount of funds it gets from central government. they said something along similar lines regarding ireland , or Malta. According to former British prime minister Theresa may , Malta was proof the size of a country does not limit its ambition or impact on the world stage. Malta is smaller than the island or arran , its population smaller than Edinburghs , and its GDP 5% of Scotlands. When Malta became independent of the British in 1964 , they asked how it would cope. I think Wales problems aren't down to its size , its employment , its costly services and population issues. These are symptoms of how badly the uk has run it , and labour have run devolution. As for ireland , how have they got on since leaving the uk...? Big difference between these two examples and Wales. They don't rely on a third party for their funds. Several other lesser differences as well.
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Post by borgr0 on Jul 17, 2024 20:43:16 GMT
The point surely is that Wales wouldn't be reliant on 3rd party funds if governed properly; it would generate its own keep, like Ireland and many others have
Why are so many Brit Nats so insistent on taking pops at others for being too reliant on them, while preventing them from actually gaining self-reliance?
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