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Post by vinny on Jun 28, 2024 14:09:47 GMT
I've banged on about this tech before, Australia has huge areas of desert for solar power plants, they're surrounded by water they can electrolyse into hydrogen, and they're about to start synthesising renewable synthetic hydrocarbons. www.premier.sa.gov.au/media-releases/news-items/zero-petroleum-fuels-south-australian-expansion-plansI'm extremely glad that we have a free trade agreement with Australia, if they scale up this technology, in the decades to come, they have enough land mass to be one of the biggest producers of carbon neutral fuels and we will be able to buy those fuels tariff free. |
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Post by montegriffo on Jun 28, 2024 15:26:31 GMT
I've banged on about this tech before, Australia has huge areas of desert for solar power plants, they're surrounded by water they can electrolyse into hydrogen, and they're about to start synthesising renewable synthetic hydrocarbons. www.premier.sa.gov.au/media-releases/news-items/zero-petroleum-fuels-south-australian-expansion-plansI'm extremely glad that we have a free trade agreement with Australia, if they scale up this technology, in the decades to come, they have enough land mass to be one of the biggest producers of carbon neutral fuels and we will be able to buy those fuels tariff free. That's great and I wish them every success but unless they stop digging up coal to export to China they aren't going to make any significant difference to their carbon footprint. |
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Post by patman post on Jun 28, 2024 16:06:09 GMT
I've banged on about this tech before, Australia has huge areas of desert for solar power plants, they're surrounded by water they can electrolyse into hydrogen, and they're about to start synthesising renewable synthetic hydrocarbons. www.premier.sa.gov.au/media-releases/news-items/zero-petroleum-fuels-south-australian-expansion-plansI'm extremely glad that we have a free trade agreement with Australia, if they scale up this technology, in the decades to come, they have enough land mass to be one of the biggest producers of carbon neutral fuels and we will be able to buy those fuels tariff free. They could float hydrogen over in inflatable airships or balloons under their own power. Then the UK could then take the gas, and pack up the containers and air freight them back to Oz… |
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Post by vinny on Jun 28, 2024 16:53:53 GMT
I've banged on about this tech before, Australia has huge areas of desert for solar power plants, they're surrounded by water they can electrolyse into hydrogen, and they're about to start synthesising renewable synthetic hydrocarbons. www.premier.sa.gov.au/media-releases/news-items/zero-petroleum-fuels-south-australian-expansion-plansI'm extremely glad that we have a free trade agreement with Australia, if they scale up this technology, in the decades to come, they have enough land mass to be one of the biggest producers of carbon neutral fuels and we will be able to buy those fuels tariff free. That's great and I wish them every success but unless they stop digging up coal to export to China they aren't going to make any significant difference to their carbon footprint. It will give them an alternative fuel to coal, and it's a hell of a lot safer to synthesise this than mine underground. Also, hydrogen can be used in place of coal to make steel. |
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Post by montegriffo on Jun 28, 2024 17:15:51 GMT
That's great and I wish them every success but unless they stop digging up coal to export to China they aren't going to make any significant difference to their carbon footprint. It will give them an alternative fuel to coal, and it's a hell of a lot safer to synthesise this than mine underground. Also, hydrogen can be used in place of coal to make steel. Great, so when do they stop mining coal? |
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Post by vinny on Jun 28, 2024 18:21:23 GMT
Presumably when they've enough alternative fuel that they don't need it.
But this will help get them towards that point.
Even though we're trying to divest from coal, we haven't reached the point that we don't need it btw.
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Post by montegriffo on Jun 28, 2024 20:22:43 GMT
Presumably when they've enough alternative fuel that they don't need it. But this will help get them towards that point. Even though we're trying to divest from coal, we haven't reached the point that we don't need it btw. Australia isn't just mining coal for themselves. They are mining it for export. Mostly for Chinese power stations. |
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Post by montegriffo on Jun 28, 2024 20:33:47 GMT
Australia is the second biggest coal exporter in the world. Over 350 million tons worth over $80 billion a year and they've got 1,200 years worth at current usage.  |
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Post by Steve on Jun 28, 2024 21:54:34 GMT
I've banged on about this tech before, Australia has huge areas of desert for solar power plants, they're surrounded by water they can electrolyse into hydrogen, and they're about to start synthesising renewable synthetic hydrocarbons. www.premier.sa.gov.au/media-releases/news-items/zero-petroleum-fuels-south-australian-expansion-plansI'm extremely glad that we have a free trade agreement with Australia, if they scale up this technology, in the decades to come, they have enough land mass to be one of the biggest producers of carbon neutral fuels and we will be able to buy those fuels tariff free. I've been to some of those sunny deserts in Oz. Yes technically they are surrounded by water but between them and the water are many hundreds of kilometers. Good to see Paddy Lowe doing well though. Had some tough years after he decided to leave Mercedes |
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Post by vinny on Jun 28, 2024 22:27:25 GMT
The great thing about solar power is you can connect everything to a mains grid via DC to AC inverters and run cables for hundreds, or even thousands of miles.
And so you can have the electrolysis plant at the coast and the synthesis plant. You don't have to have everything next to the solar panels.
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Post by Steve on Jun 28, 2024 22:32:16 GMT
True
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Post by Zany on Jun 29, 2024 12:52:04 GMT
That's great and I wish them every success but unless they stop digging up coal to export to China they aren't going to make any significant difference to their carbon footprint. It will give them an alternative fuel to coal, and it's a hell of a lot safer to synthesise this than mine underground. Also, hydrogen can be used in place of coal to make steel. Most Aussie coal is open cast. |
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Post by Zany on Jun 29, 2024 12:54:43 GMT
Glad the Aussies are starting to take climate change seriously. Its taken them a while but better late than never.
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Post by vinny on Jun 29, 2024 23:27:39 GMT
It will give them an alternative fuel to coal, and it's a hell of a lot safer to synthesise this than mine underground. Also, hydrogen can be used in place of coal to make steel. Most Aussie coal is open cast. Open cast mining is not environmentally safe. |
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Post by Zany on Jun 30, 2024 6:20:17 GMT
Most Aussie coal is open cast. Open cast mining is not environmentally safe. Absolutely agree. |
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