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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2024 10:48:26 GMT
I don’t think that you need to trust polls to understand how deeply unpopular the current Tory government is. I know they're unpopular, the thing is, Labour are not offering any serious alternative. And to make things worse, Labour can't even define what a woman is! How can they be expected to be taken seriously? Labour is afraid to say anything very much at all, through fear of a hostile media using it against them. The current leadership are a bunch of liars and cowards, with very few principles they wont trade in for office, and almost nothing they will stand up and defend or attack if the opinion polls and focus groups show the public is not behind them. Anyone who thinks principles matter in politics, forget about Labour or the Tories. Move along, move along, nothing to see here.
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Post by Orac on Apr 6, 2024 10:55:45 GMT
The exact 'agreed definition' is not the issue. The real issue is whether this person has any personal integrity or are they just a shifty, lying pole climbing nothing of person. I agree its a problem, I just don't think its an important election issue. I think whether a candidate is a greasy pole climbing invertebrate or not is one of the most important election issues
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Post by Zany on Apr 6, 2024 11:58:35 GMT
I agree its a problem, I just don't think its an important election issue. I think whether a candidate is a greasy pole climbing invertebrate or not is one of the most important election issues Yes, as I said trust. What that has to do with an exact definition of what is a woman.
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Post by Orac on Apr 6, 2024 13:23:15 GMT
I think whether a candidate is a greasy pole climbing invertebrate or not is one of the most important election issues Yes, as I said trust. What that has to do with an exact definition of what is a woman. Like i said, this exact definition of woman is not important, rather it's having a greasy dishonesty level so high, the candidate finds themselves 'unable' to answer a simple question. If you are 'politically handicapped' in such a spectacular way, there is no way you are going to be able to fight anyone's corner.
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Post by Zany on Apr 6, 2024 14:16:18 GMT
Yes, as I said trust. What that has to do with an exact definition of what is a woman. Like i said, this exact definition of woman is not important, rather it's having a greasy dishonesty level so high, the candidate finds themselves 'unable' to answer a simple question. If you are 'politically handicapped' in such a spectacular way, there is no way you are going to be able to fight anyone's corner. Ah, understood. Because they can't give a simple straight answer to that complex question, you find them untrustworthy. Frankly I find far more telling traces of honesty.
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Post by Orac on Apr 6, 2024 14:55:15 GMT
Like i said, this exact definition of woman is not important, rather it's having a greasy dishonesty level so high, the candidate finds themselves 'unable' to answer a simple question. If you are 'politically handicapped' in such a spectacular way, there is no way you are going to be able to fight anyone's corner. Ah, understood. Because they can't give a simple straight answer to that complex question, you find them untrustworthy. I think you can make any simple question 'complex' if you add enough dishonesty and spinelessness. People who do this are not the sort of people you want running anything.
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Post by Zany on Apr 6, 2024 15:28:55 GMT
Ah, understood. Because they can't give a simple straight answer to that complex question, you find them untrustworthy. I think you can make any simple question 'complex' if you add enough dishonesty and spinelessness. People who do this are not the sort of people you want running anything. I think that recognising different sexual states is new and still in the learning process. That some are uncomfortable with change is inevitable, its happened with everything from women being equal to men to homosexuality. I definitely do not think its a simple question. It might be a loaded question, an are you with us or them type question.
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Post by Orac on Apr 7, 2024 6:58:03 GMT
I think you can make any simple question 'complex' if you add enough dishonesty and spinelessness. People who do this are not the sort of people you want running anything. I think that recognising different sexual states is new and still in the learning process. That some are uncomfortable with change is inevitable, its happened with everything from women being equal to men to homosexuality. I definitely do not think its a simple question. It might be a loaded question, an are you with us or them type question. I think this is just you drinking from the poison chalice of reflected faux expertise. You want to be clever - or at least agree with clever people - and this is being used to manipulate you into talking nonsense. It's a little like the parable of the King's clothes.
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Post by Zany on Apr 7, 2024 7:01:05 GMT
I think that recognising different sexual states is new and still in the learning process. That some are uncomfortable with change is inevitable, its happened with everything from women being equal to men to homosexuality. I definitely do not think its a simple question. It might be a loaded question, an are you with us or them type question. I think this is just you drinking from the poison chalice of reflected faux expertise. You want to be clever - or at least agree with clever people - and this is being used to manipulate you into talking nonsense. It's a little like the parable of the King's clothes. Have you ever met one? I mean to actually talk to?
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Post by Orac on Apr 7, 2024 20:59:33 GMT
I think this is just you drinking from the poison chalice of reflected faux expertise. You want to be clever - or at least agree with clever people - and this is being used to manipulate you into talking nonsense. It's a little like the parable of the King's clothes. Have you ever met one? I mean to actually talk to? One of my regularly watched Youtube channels. - I'm not overly interested in Royal matters, but i find his delivery and communication style entertaining.
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