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Post by Orac on May 7, 2024 16:02:15 GMT
The Green party shifting focus away from environmentalism and towards the final victory of Islam and the extermination of the Jews, is only a small policy shift, but i do feel this could be the thin edge of a larger wedge.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2024 16:22:38 GMT
The Green party shifting focus away from environmentalism and towards the final victory of Islam and the extermination of the Jews, is only a small policy shift, but i do feel this could be the thin edge of a larger wedge. I would like to know in which parallel universe this is happening in so I can be sure never to go there. Thankfully, such nonsense is not happening in the universe most of us live in. Where is your evidence for the ridiculous assertion that the Greens want to exterminate the Jews? Or that they want the total victory of Islam? Most of them are not even Muslims themselves, lol Such wild assertions need a lot of supportive evidence to negate the otherwise obvious assumption that you are talking malicious and unfounded shit. |
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Post by Orac on May 7, 2024 16:45:21 GMT
The Green party shifting focus away from environmentalism and towards the final victory of Islam and the extermination of the Jews, is only a small policy shift, but i do feel this could be the thin edge of a larger wedge. I would like to know in which parallel universe this is happening in so I can be sure never to go there. It's this universe. The tribal politics of the collapsed, third world shit pit is now winning local elections in the UK This time around it might be argued that many of the idiots who voted green in Leeds didn't know they were voting for Islamic rule and jew extermination, but it wont be long before it doesn't have to be so coy. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2024 17:01:04 GMT
I would like to know in which parallel universe this is happening in so I can be sure never to go there. It's this universe. The tribal politics of the collapsed, third world shit pit is now winning local elections in the UK This time around it might be argued that many of the idiots who voted green in Leeds didn't know they were voting for Islamic rule and jew extermination, but it wont be long before it doesn't have to be so coy. Again you repeat the ridiculous and provocative assertion that the Greens want to exterminate the Jews, again without a shred of evidence. Where is your evidence? Or are you just deploying a politically loaded piece of bullshit which says more about your own prejudices than anything else? You cannot possibly hope to retain even the merest shred of credibility with such a silly yet hateful assertion without something in the way of convincing evidence. Otherwise it will look to most of us that you just made that up as a standard to foist your own prejudices on. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2024 17:16:42 GMT
One obvious point. If a formally respected party like the Greens had adopted a programme of exterminating the Jews, would it not be big news? One would think it would be all over the mainstream media.
The fact that it is not, and the apparent coyness in providing evidence for such an earth shattering revelation, tends to suggest to me that the source of this belief is either someone's fervid and un-evidenced imagination, or some highly dodgy and utterly unreliable far right source that anyone making any kind of intelligent argument would be too embarrassed to cite as their only source.
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Post by Zany on May 7, 2024 17:24:37 GMT
I would like to know in which parallel universe this is happening in so I can be sure never to go there. It's this universe. The tribal politics of the collapsed, third world shit pit is now winning local elections in the UK This time around it might be argued that many of the idiots who voted green in Leeds didn't know they were voting for Islamic rule and jew extermination, but it wont be long before it doesn't have to be so coy. It might be argued, but not without evidence. The greens saying they disapprove of Israel's actions in Gaza is a very long way from voting for Jew extermination. I strongly disapprove of Israel's actions in Gaza and the thousands they have killed, their actions in the West bank that lead to support for Hamas are despicable. Do I want the extermination of the Jews? |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2024 17:28:40 GMT
I have done a google search in regards to the accusation that the Greens want to exterminate the Jews. And of course there was nothing. Merely some reports of a solitary Green councillor in Leeds who appears to have said some dodgy things in support of the Palestinians. One person. And even this did not include anything like any Hitlerite plan to exterminate the Jews.
Me thinks someone is telling the sort of fibs that would be better appreciated on the other forum.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2024 17:53:48 GMT
It's this universe. The tribal politics of the collapsed, third world shit pit is now winning local elections in the UK This time around it might be argued that many of the idiots who voted green in Leeds didn't know they were voting for Islamic rule and jew extermination, but it wont be long before it doesn't have to be so coy. It might be argued, but not without evidence. The greens saying they disapprove of Israel's actions in Gaza is a very long way from voting for Jew extermination. I strongly disapprove of Israel's actions in Gaza and the thousands they have killed, their actions in the West bank that lead to support for Hamas are despicable. Do I want the extermination of the Jews? I too disapprove strongly of the behaviour of Israel, not only in Gaza right now but also over many decades. I totally condemn the atrocities of October 7th as well of course, as well as the taking and holding of hostages. But the apparent collective punishment meted out since last October cannot be justified. The Israeli government itself includes extremists, one of whom has said that the Gazans should be encouraged to leave permanently. Yes, I am critical of such a government. I tend to be critical of the far right wherever they are. But rest assured that like you I have no desire to see the Jews exterminated. To equate legitimate criticism of Israel with a desire to exterminate the Jews is a highly offensive and entirely false conflation. Were anyone here to genuinely call for such a thing, the media would be all over it and all political persuasions would rightly condemn it. That we have heard nothing therefore strongly suggests that it isnt true. |
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Post by Orac on May 7, 2024 18:28:18 GMT
It's this universe. The tribal politics of the collapsed, third world shit pit is now winning local elections in the UK This time around it might be argued that many of the idiots who voted green in Leeds didn't know they were voting for Islamic rule and jew extermination, but it wont be long before it doesn't have to be so coy. It might be argued, but not without evidence. The greens saying they disapprove of Israel's actions in Gaza is a very long way from voting for Jew extermination. I strongly disapprove of Israel's actions in Gaza and the thousands they have killed, their actions in the West bank that lead to support for Hamas are despicable. Do I want the extermination of the Jews? Context, Zany. You don't strike me as the type who actually supports Hamas, nor the type who would hold his hand in air and shout Allluha Akbar in a local election victory speech. What is interesting here is not that you can throw some equivocation or other in front of my slightly exaggerated claim, it';s just how thin and cramped that equivocation really is VERSUS how fat and comfortable it should be. There should be a million miles of water between what i'm saying and a plain unvarnished presentation of the facts and there isn't - at best there is narrow stream that could be leapt in a single bound. Does this man support Hamas? almost certainly Did he join the early celebrations that occurred in the UK just after OCT 7th? I'd be surprised if he didn't. |
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Post by Zany on May 7, 2024 18:28:25 GMT
I'm getting to the point where I no longer feel I need to say I'm not anti Semite every time I criticise Israel.
Maybe the time has come to stop allowing Israel to hide behind the holocaust.
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Post by Zany on May 7, 2024 18:54:37 GMT
It might be argued, but not without evidence. The greens saying they disapprove of Israel's actions in Gaza is a very long way from voting for Jew extermination. I strongly disapprove of Israel's actions in Gaza and the thousands they have killed, their actions in the West bank that lead to support for Hamas are despicable. Do I want the extermination of the Jews? Context, Zany. You don't strike me as the type who actually supports Hamas, nor the type who would hold his hand in air and shout Allluha Akbar in a local election victory speech. If I was Muslim I might. What's wrong with saying God is great. Would you criticise a Christian vote winner for praising god? Only in your mind. Only there does a guy expressing support for Muslims and saying god is great in his religion translate into..... Well I don't know what. You use innuendo, why not say what you think will happen next. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2024 19:15:42 GMT
It might be argued, but not without evidence. The greens saying they disapprove of Israel's actions in Gaza is a very long way from voting for Jew extermination. I strongly disapprove of Israel's actions in Gaza and the thousands they have killed, their actions in the West bank that lead to support for Hamas are despicable. Do I want the extermination of the Jews? Context, Zany. You don't strike me as the type who actually supports Hamas, nor the type who would hold his hand in air and shout Allluha Akbar in a local election victory speech. What is interesting here is not that you can throw some equivocation or other in front of my slightly exaggerated claim, it';s just how thin and cramped that equivocation really is VERSUS how fat and comfortable it should be. There should be a million miles of water between what i'm saying and a plain unvarnished presentation of the facts and there isn't - at best there is narrow stream that could be leapt in a single bound. Does this man support Hamas? almost certainly Did he join the early celebrations that occurred in the UK just after OCT 7th? I'd be surprised if he didn't. You talk of context yet say that someone supporting the Palestinians and critical of Israel and who praises God in his own religion, actually wants to exterminate the Jews, and call this a slight exaggeration? lol. You also say what you think a certain individual might have done without actually knowing what he did. And he is just one person so your inference that he is representative of all Greens is itself demonstrably a gross exaggeration. And none of it is backed by evidence. I think that when it comes to your daft assertion that the Greens want to exterminate the Jews, you need to either put up or shut up. What evidence do you have beyond your own imagination? |
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Post by Orac on May 7, 2024 19:17:10 GMT
There is the tiny thin wafer -
Sieg heil just means 'hail victory', so also appropriate for an election victory speech. Nothing to see?
The broader discussion is about immigration's effect on UK society. We now have 3rd world death cults using their signals in our elections.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2024 19:19:02 GMT
I'm getting to the point where I no longer feel I need to say I'm not anti Semite every time I criticise Israel. Maybe the time has come to stop allowing Israel to hide behind the holocaust. In truth that time came decades ago, but Israel by it's current conduct is making many more people realise this now. |
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Post by Orac on May 7, 2024 19:27:28 GMT
Context, Zany. You don't strike me as the type who actually supports Hamas, nor the type who would hold his hand in air and shout Allluha Akbar in a local election victory speech. What is interesting here is not that you can throw some equivocation or other in front of my slightly exaggerated claim, it';s just how thin and cramped that equivocation really is VERSUS how fat and comfortable it should be. There should be a million miles of water between what i'm saying and a plain unvarnished presentation of the facts and there isn't - at best there is narrow stream that could be leapt in a single bound. Does this man support Hamas? almost certainly Did he join the early celebrations that occurred in the UK just after OCT 7th? I'd be surprised if he didn't. You talk of context yet say that someone supporting the Palestinians and critical of Israel and who praises God in his own religion, actually wants to exterminate the Jews, Someone who shouts that term in public is signalling. It was pretty obvious what was signaled here. Like i say, an interesting change in direction for the green party |
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