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Post by vinny on Apr 5, 2024 0:15:59 GMT
If moderate parties do not associate with our nation's flag, extremists will. All major parties should be proud to use our flag. As for Brexit, we voted for it. Even you voted for it. We implemented it. We're selling more to the EU than we did when we were members, what's your problem with it now Red Rum? Selling more services not Manufacturerd goods .And we're still in a Massive deficit with the EU. We're selling more of both and the value of our exports has gone up above inflation remarkably because our exports are more competitive. Seriously, get over it.
And look at the benefits instead of sulking.
You're a leftie.
The EU demands for everything to be a market are over. Look at the opportunities for you to push for nationalisation, of energy, of water, of public transport. You couldn't nationalise those as a member of the EU as it would create a monopoly. But you clearly want such things. Now you can make the case.
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Post by totheleft on Apr 5, 2024 0:52:16 GMT
Sorry Nigel your wrong with your lies ,dam lies and misinformation.
EU law explicitly protects the right of member states to nationalise industries. Art. 345 TFEU states “The Treaties shall in no way prejudice the rules in Member States (MS) governing the system of property ownership.”
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2024 23:07:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2024 0:50:19 GMT
Patriotism is loving your country, not hating other people's countries. Looking out for those around you, using the local business, rather than a big business, supporting your local community. Doing what you can to strengthen democracy. Voting for who you believe in, not just those who have the best chance. If it helps save a deposit, it's not a wasted vote, it helps alternatives grow and put forward ideas that the main parties will have to start listening to. When our country is going to shit, wanting to make it better, to be a nation others wish to emulate, is the way to express patriotism whilst being a realist. As for the flag, the far right have often attempted to hijack it for their cause. The National Front was doing it in the 70s so this is nothing new. The best way to challenge this is for all genuine patriots to be willing to display it where appropriate. However I suspect Starmer's use of it is a case of doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. To him and those around him it is just a vote winning gimmick. They have no real love of the flag. Emily Thornberry once sneered at and took the piss out of someone who was displaying the flag, which is probably more representative of what they really think. I mean Starmer would have a penis tattooed onto his forehead if he thought there were enough votes in it
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Post by Zany on Aug 30, 2024 19:05:11 GMT
I saw a clip of Starmer giving a televised interview and noticed he had taken up the 'flag'. Don't get me wrong, I am a patriot and would have fought for my country if I was able but using our flag to appeal to the 'nastier' side of our country is a Tory trick. There is no way I could vote for a party that has a political 'opportunist' as it's leader. Absolutely, I hate it when they all turn up at the cenotaph on remembrance day. How dare they be proud of the country they serve.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2024 11:21:51 GMT
Did Keir Starmer break stats rules over immigration claim?And the hypocritical multi-tier whingers whinged about the Tories doing the same with economic figures (which the Tories did, by the way). It's all so hypocritical and Tory-like by this Labour party, but pointing this out is now reclassified as attention-seeking, go figure. How dare the powerful be held to account and truth be spoken to power - sling them out the conference etc etc, cover up the truth - silence the media as much as possible Oh, that's working so well, that's why their polling is in the bin. Everyone else is wrong
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Post by RedRum on Nov 26, 2024 10:05:32 GMT
I saw a clip of Starmer giving a televised interview and noticed he had taken up the 'flag'. Don't get me wrong, I am a patriot and would have fought for my country if I was able but using our flag to appeal to the 'nastier' side of our country is a Tory trick. There is no way I could vote for a party that has a political 'opportunist' as it's leader. Absolutely, I hate it when they all turn up at the cenotaph on remembrance day. How dare they be proud of the country they serve. A bit harsh I think. There is nothing wrong in setting a time of remembrance for those that fell giving us the freedoms that we enjoy today. My point is, as stated, in using our flag as a 'prop' to encourage a dangerous minority that have crawled out from under their rocks.
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Post by Zany on Nov 26, 2024 21:54:42 GMT
Absolutely, I hate it when they all turn up at the cenotaph on remembrance day. How dare they be proud of the country they serve. A bit harsh I think. There is nothing wrong in setting a time of remembrance for those that fell giving us the freedoms that we enjoy today. My point is, as stated, in using our flag as a 'prop' to encourage a dangerous minority that have crawled out from under their rocks. Yeah OK, good point.
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