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Post by Saint on Nov 15, 2024 22:14:01 GMT
A concerned citizen writes:
How worse can it get?
Rachel Reeves caught 'lying' on her CV as GDP growth takes big hit
The Tories have laid into the Chancellor as online observers say row should be a resignation matter.
In October the Guido Fawkes website revealed that while she claimed she worked as an “economist” at the Bank of Scotland between 2006 and 2009, she in fact had a more mundane job working in a support unit managing administration, IT and planning matters
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Post by Saint on Nov 15, 2024 22:15:23 GMT
Think yourself lucky, Concerned Citizen. We could have a convicted felon as Prime Minister, a sexual predator as Attorney General, and a wacko vaccine-sceptic as health minister.
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Post by Steve on Nov 15, 2024 22:20:34 GMT
CC proves yet again he's a mere pawn in Paul Staines grubby hands.
I'll C&P what I posted on Pol-Tics shredding this idiot story for idiots a couple of weeks back:
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Post by borg0 on Nov 15, 2024 22:51:39 GMT
Think yourself lucky, Concerned Citizen. We could have a convicted felon as Prime Minister, a sexual predator as Attorney General, and a wacko vaccine-sceptic as health minister. To be fair, they're saying he'll get those previous convictions wiped so will no longer be a felon, Matt Gaetz was never formally charged of those things and RFK Jr says he won't end vaccines for anybody, if they want them
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Post by Saint on Nov 15, 2024 23:00:02 GMT
Think yourself lucky, Concerned Citizen. We could have a convicted felon as Prime Minister, a sexual predator as Attorney General, and a wacko vaccine-sceptic as health minister. To be fair, they're saying he'll get those previous convictions wiped so will no longer be a felon, Matt Gaetz was never formally charged of those things and RFK Jr says he won't end vaccines for anybody, if they want them
Trump: How does he propose to get his convictions wiped? Gaetz: You don't have to break any laws to be a sexual predator. You just have to take advantage of your senior position to have sexual relations with 17-year-olds over which you are in a position to exert undue influence. Kenndey: It's great that he won't stop people taking life-saving vaccines. But he's proposed as Secretary of Health, for God's sake. It's not like when Nigel Farage said that smoking doesn't cause lung cancer. Kennedy will be taken seriously simply by virtue of his office.
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Post by borg0 on Nov 15, 2024 23:02:27 GMT
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Post by Saint on Nov 15, 2024 23:07:14 GMT
Trump: LOL! Trump may pardon himself. And I suppose if he pardoned a serial killer, that would mean nobody died. By the way, does a pardon mean that a conviction is quashed in the sense that someone is found to be innocent and no crime is held to have occurred? Or does it simply mean that no punishment is applicable to someone whom the law accepts has a committed a crime? Because if it's the latter, Trump will still be a convicted felon even if he pardons himself. Gaetz: There's still time. And even if he's innocent, what sort of idiot appoints a man with that sort of shadow hanging over him as the country's highest law official? Kennedy: Of course Kennedy means well. That's not good enough when lives are at stake, though.
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Post by borg0 on Nov 15, 2024 23:39:01 GMT
Trump: LOL! Trump may pardon himself. And I suppose if he pardoned a serial killer, that would mean nobody died. By the way, does a pardon mean that a conviction is quashed in the sense that someone is found to be innocent and no crime is held to have occurred? Or does it simply mean that no punishment is applicable to someone whom the law accepts has a committed a crime? Because if it's the latter, Trump will still be a convicted felon even if he pardons himself. Gaetz: There's still time. And even if he's innocent, what sort of idiot appoints a man with that sort of shadow hanging over him as the country's highest law official? Kennedy: Of course Kennedy means well. That's not good enough when lives are at stake, though. Maybe it is good enough, a lot disagree with vaccine mandates, a lot disagree with junk food companies having free reign to do what they please
As for Gaetz, Trump believes he's innocent so he has nothing to apologize for, incl the shadow over him
Re Trump - they believe Trump truly is innocent of any and all crimes
Some of the media have, at times, trumped up what he's done and what he believes as fact checks (from CNN) have found
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Post by Saint on Nov 16, 2024 0:12:40 GMT
Trump: LOL! Trump may pardon himself. And I suppose if he pardoned a serial killer, that would mean nobody died. By the way, does a pardon mean that a conviction is quashed in the sense that someone is found to be innocent and no crime is held to have occurred? Or does it simply mean that no punishment is applicable to someone whom the law accepts has a committed a crime? Because if it's the latter, Trump will still be a convicted felon even if he pardons himself. Gaetz: There's still time. And even if he's innocent, what sort of idiot appoints a man with that sort of shadow hanging over him as the country's highest law official? Kennedy: Of course Kennedy means well. That's not good enough when lives are at stake, though. Maybe it is good enough, a lot disagree with vaccine mandates, a lot disagree with junk food companies having free reign to do what they please
As for Gaetz, Trump believes he's innocent so he has nothing to apologize for, incl the shadow over him
Re Trump - they believe Trump truly is innocent of any and all crimes
Some of the media have, at times, trumped up what he's done and what he believes as fact checks (from CNN) have found Trump: He had a fair trial. He can give himself as many pardons as he wants - he won't change that. He will still be a convicted felon. Gaetz: The charges against him are unproven at this point. He may be innocent. But what does it say about Trump that he was prepared to overlook the shadow hanging over him? Do you think his own 'Grab 'em by the pussy' attitude makes him more sympathetic? Probably, I would have thought. Kennedy: It doesn't matter if some disagree with the vaccine mandates. Some disagree with the proposition that the world is a sphere. That doesn't make it flat. It is the responsibility of the official overseeing the health of a nation to defer to best medical opinion.
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Post by borg0 on Nov 16, 2024 0:17:32 GMT
Best medical opinion is in the eye of the beholder
Same for all the other stuff, many believe Trump to be innocent, same for Gaetz
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Post by Saint on Nov 16, 2024 0:25:16 GMT
Best medical opinion is in the eye of the beholder Same for all the other stuff, many believe Trump to be innocent, same for Gaetz Absolute rubbish! Best medical practice is empirically verifiable. Just because there are people out there who believe that homeopathy is the best treatment for some serious illnesses, doesn't mean that it is. It is not in the eye of the beholder - best medical practice is objective fact capable of empirical demonstration. And all the other stuff isn't in the eye of the beholder, either. It is the height of poor judgment to appoint someone as a nation's highest representative of law and order if there is even a shadow of doubt about something as serious as is alleged against Gaetz.
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Post by montegriffo on Nov 16, 2024 0:45:34 GMT
Best medical opinion is in the eye of the beholder Same for all the other stuff, many believe Trump to be innocent, same for Gaetz No it is not. That's how we got to horse paste and suggestions that you could inject disinfectant. Drug company stocks have fallen today because that loon was 'appointed' by Trump.
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Post by montegriffo on Nov 16, 2024 0:47:05 GMT
A pardon is an admittance of guilt. You can't pardon an innocent man.
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Post by borg0 on Nov 16, 2024 2:44:45 GMT
Best medical opinion is in the eye of the beholder Same for all the other stuff, many believe Trump to be innocent, same for Gaetz No it is not. That's how we got to horse paste and suggestions that you could inject disinfectant. Drug company stocks have fallen today because that loon was 'appointed' by Trump. And have you seen what drug companies in some cases do here?
They mean well, but people getting onto opioids isn't a joke
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Post by borg0 on Nov 16, 2024 2:45:17 GMT
A pardon is an admittance of guilt. You can't pardon an innocent man. Tell that to many of the death row inmates later found innocent after it was too late and they were posthumously pardoned
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