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Post by montegriffo on Mar 28, 2024 8:18:40 GMT
At some point we may have to think about moderation.
What do you think is the best way to do it?
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Post by delphicoracle on Mar 28, 2024 8:52:49 GMT
At some point we may have to think about moderation. What do you think is the best way to do it? Be careful who you invite to the forum? 😉 |
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Post by Saint on Mar 28, 2024 9:00:24 GMT
A two-tier system: A MindZone and a GeneralZone.
There should be a clear distinction between the areas, with the GeneralZone operating the same as Fox's old site and the MindZone operating to a much higher standard.
Some effort should be put into understanding why the MindZone isn't more popular at the other place, why it isn't particularly popular even among those who seek a higher standard of debate.
Is it because it isn't broken up into sections like the Westminster forum, the EU forum? Why?
Most importantly, though, there needs to be balance between left and right on the mod team and there shouldn't be arbitrary, disproportionate, and inconsistent sanctions.
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Post by delphicoracle on Mar 28, 2024 9:11:28 GMT
I wouldn't split the forum into sections. I would remember the two simple fundamental rules...attack the post and not the poster. And stay on topic.
Ie no bullying, pages of shouting personal insults, and remember what the subject is.
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Post by Orac on Mar 28, 2024 18:11:05 GMT
Delphi, i honestly have trouble with both those rules - as rules. They don't work very well in the reality of political discussion.
A political discussion starts with "you are an idiot to believe that nonsense"
A political topic is in a reality in which one thing is connected to everything else by two degrees. For the moment we are doing pretty well without rules. I have a couple of rules - no bullying and no real world threats (including doxing etc)
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Post by montegriffo on Mar 28, 2024 19:12:28 GMT
I prefer guidelines to rules.
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Post by montegriffo on Mar 28, 2024 23:35:16 GMT
Orac You've had a chance to look around the site as an owner now. Is there any way to make the MZ look different from the rest of the board? Different theme or colour etc.
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Post by Orac on Mar 29, 2024 0:26:53 GMT
I have a few errands to perform over the next couple of days and have been busy the last couple. I have a few ideas - I agree MZ should look different - a different theme (if that's possible) with threads being visually identifiable, preferably by colour. I also have some other ideas, but don't want to get people over-excited until I know it can be done. It means more participation - think Stanford prisoner experiment.
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Post by montegriffo on Mar 29, 2024 0:31:22 GMT
I'm not convinced we need all the different forum headings either. This site I used to be on managed fine with just 6. www.martinhash.com/forums/I think the podcasts one is surplus to requirements too. |
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Post by montegriffo on Mar 29, 2024 0:45:51 GMT
I have a few errands to perform over the next couple of days and have been busy the last couple. I have a few ideas - I agree MZ should look different - a different theme (if that's possible) with threads being visually identifiable, preferably by colour. I also have some other ideas, but don't want to get people over-excited until I know it can be done. It means more participation - think Stanford prisoner experiment. I can have a look around the admin options on the one I set up the other day. I think you are probably more savvy than I am with the magic box though. |
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Post by Orac on Mar 29, 2024 1:09:25 GMT
I think it could be a lot of fun if people had some options and involvement. Btw, if you want any further posts of yours deleted, just report them with the word 'delete'.
I'm thinking of setting up domains..i'm not sure what i have in mind can be done yet
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Post by montegriffo on Mar 29, 2024 1:25:55 GMT
Members can delete their own posts at any time. It's in the drop down on the options wheel.
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Post by montegriffo on Mar 29, 2024 1:37:52 GMT
I think it could be a lot of fun if people had some options and involvement. Btw, if you want any further posts of yours deleted, just report them with the word 'delete'. I'm thinking of setting up domains..i'm not sure what i have in mind can be done yet What do you mean by domains? |
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Post by sheepy on Mar 29, 2024 7:54:40 GMT
It's fairly simple really, don't let your own personal feelings take control over what you might think is acceptable and even worse your own personal politics come into play. Which is usually fed by a mainstream media trying to control all things on behalf of a very small minority.
Well, OK it isn't so simple then.
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Post by delphicoracle on Mar 29, 2024 10:01:09 GMT
Delphi, i honestly have trouble with both those rules - as rules. They don't work very well in the reality of political discussion. A political discussion starts with "you are an idiot to believe that nonsense" A political topic is in a reality in which one thing is connected to everything else by two degrees. For the moment we are doing pretty well without rules. I have a couple of rules - no bullying and no real world threats (including doxing etc) OK. But I prefer to add "guidelines" when necessary rather than impose them first, other than the personal insults and going off topic ones. Right now I have no idea what the "rules" are in here but all I have seen is polite, measured attempts to discuss the issues. The humour isnt insulting and there is a certain respect for one another among the members. The more rules you have, the more opportunity you make to bicker about what they mean, complain about the history of the offending post ( he said, them she said), the extent to which the rule was broken etc etc. And frankly, the more mods you have, the worse it becomes. You need a mission statement, a clearly defined level of civil discourse, and no more than three mods to form a simple majority decision. And they should not enter into an argument about "it isnt fair". Fair is what the mods decide, not the member. Finally I would forget the left right balance in the mods. They arent judging the argument. They are judging the way the argument is made. But the mods have to be able to tell the difference. |
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