October 7th Butcher Killed by Israelis.

It seems to me while others having been working on their long-winded speeches about how they will dominate and destroy Israel, Israel has been doing some hard-yards type quiet work in the background.

Another psychopath will be chosen, but each time this happens a whole pile of resources, effort and confidence are destroyed.

I wrote something along these lines in another political forum and was immediately banned.

In a war involving two sides, it is perfectly acceptable to decide for yourself who you believe is in the wrong, or in the right.

In the case of the Israeli-Palestine conflict which has been going on now for 75 years, there has been both Wrong and Right from both sides, but to me the definitive measure is that of the suffering of ordinary people, civilians, women, children, old people, people in schools, hospitals, homes and refugee camps.

I am not a Muslim or a Palestinian, and I am certainly not Anti Semitic and would stand up against any form of racial or religious discrimination. I also very firmly believe in Israel's right to exist.

But what the IDF have done in Gaza is equally as bad as what the Russians did to the city and people of Mariupol in Ukraine, there is no excuse for it what so ever - 42,000 + dead, 70% of which are women and children.

On the opposite side of the coin there can be no excuse for what Hamas terrorists did on October 7th 2023, but Netenyahou is been led by far right Jewish extremists, and the IDF have gone far too far .... So yes, I agree, the sooner someone puts a bullet into these people, the better. 

But it is not a war in effect. As you say the Palestinian people have been treated appallingly by Israel for decades and under international law Palestinians have the right to resist using force if necessary. The west  as co-authors of these laws, have a duty to uphold these laws and aid the Palestinians in their 'fight' against colonialism and occupation.

October the 7th was appalling and every right minded person should condemn the actions of Hamas unequivocally but when exactly does resistance become terrorism.

It cannot be the number of deaths because as we have seen, before the 7th and after, killing Palestinians is very easy for the Israeli state. We, also do not know how the 7th was 'allowed' to happen when it is quite clear that Israel was warned by both Egypt and the US that an attack was imminent. We. also do not know any real facts about the day itself because Israel and the US have told so many lies, babies beheaded, babies on a washing line and mass rapes.....

The only thing we do know is that a lot of hostages were taken on that day and that Hamas killed many Israelis, we also know that a lot of bodies were found incinerated which could not have been by Hamas because the light weapons they carried were not capable of destroying a human body.

You might think from this that I support Hamas but I do not but unfortunately for the Palestinians they are all they have got. 

With Israel's nutter infested parliament voting to cut off UN aid to Gaza it really is time for the West to get tough with Israel. But we won't see anything ahead of the US election vote next Thursday

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gp2ejzpxeo

Undoubtedly, they're entitled to fight back against oppression. The question is: how should they fight against oppression? Not all forms of resistance are acceptable. I don't believe either of us thinks what happened on October 7th can be justified in any way. It was unmitigated savagery. Merely pointing out that the Israelis can be just as bad won't change that.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Some of what the French resistance did was glorious, some was appalling. Same with the Palestinian resistance. What Hamas did on 7th October was a stain on the history of humanity. It was horrific beyond words.