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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2024 12:19:46 GMT
Yes, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that. Don't quote me, but I think that his online remarks about being prepared to die for Ukraine were made more than a year ago. That said, he's still very likely unhinged.
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Post by Steve on Sept 17, 2024 13:23:38 GMT
So the question should be what sane country allows unhinged people to own AK-47 like weaponry?
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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2024 13:28:36 GMT
So the question should be what sane country allows unhinged people to own AK-47 like weaponry? Exactly. The irony is that a gun nut is being targeted by gun nuts. I'm not saying Trump would ever attempt or condone anything similar. But I think it's fair to call Trump a gun nut, given that his suggested solution to school shootings was to arm teachers with high powered weapons. |
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Post by montegriffo on Sept 17, 2024 15:24:18 GMT
So the question should be what sane country allows unhinged people to own AK-47 like weaponry? Exactly. The irony is that a gun nut is being targeted by gun nuts. I'm not saying Trump would ever attempt or condone anything similar. But I think it's fair to call Trump a gun nut, given that his suggested solution to school shootings was to arm teachers with high powered weapons. Trump flip flops on gun control. He lost some support from gun advocates back in 2016 when he said he would take the guns first then go to court but more recently he has blocked a bill that would have made it more difficult for people with mental illnesses to obtain guns (red flag laws). I wouldn't really describe him as a gun nut though. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2024 15:27:10 GMT
Exactly. The irony is that a gun nut is being targeted by gun nuts. I'm not saying Trump would ever attempt or condone anything similar. But I think it's fair to call Trump a gun nut, given that his suggested solution to school shootings was to arm teachers with high powered weapons. Trump flip flops on gun control. He lost some support from gun advocates back in 2016 when he said he would take the guns first then go to court but more recently he has blocked a bill that would have made it more difficult for people with mental illnesses to obtain guns (red flag laws). I wouldn't really describe him as a gun nut though. Was his suggested solution to school shootings to arm teachers with high powered weapons? If the answer is yes, I suggest you have an overly restricted personal definition of what a gun nut is. |
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Post by montegriffo on Sept 17, 2024 17:36:49 GMT
Trump flip flops on gun control. He lost some support from gun advocates back in 2016 when he said he would take the guns first then go to court but more recently he has blocked a bill that would have made it more difficult for people with mental illnesses to obtain guns (red flag laws). I wouldn't really describe him as a gun nut though. Was his suggested solution to school shootings to arm teachers with high powered weapons? If the answer is yes, you have a restricted personal definition of what a gun nut is. I believe it was the NRA who suggested it but Trump did say he was considering supporting it back in 2018. I don't believe he did anything to facilitate the arming of teachers though. As usual, he flapped his lips but did nothing. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2024 17:38:41 GMT
Was his suggested solution to school shootings to arm teachers with high powered weapons? If the answer is yes, you have a restricted personal definition of what a gun nut is. I believe it was the NRA who suggested it but Trump did say he was considering supporting it back in 2018. I don't believe he did anything to facilitate the arming of teachers though. As usual, he flapped his lips but did nothing. He got up before the world's press and told them that school teachers should be armed with high powered weapons, that that was the solution to the school shooter problem. That may not make him a gun nut in your opinion, but it does in mine. |
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Post by Zany on Sept 17, 2024 19:28:23 GMT
The security shot at the gunman three times before he fled. |
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Post by Steve on Sept 17, 2024 21:13:15 GMT
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Post by wapentake on Sept 17, 2024 21:20:45 GMT
Are you sure I heard he took 3 on the first hole  sorry |
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Post by vinny on Sept 17, 2024 22:27:33 GMT
The security shot at the gunman three times before he fled. There were no shots by the gunman, he bottled it. A more determined assassin would have killed the security guards. |
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Post by Zany on Sept 18, 2024 7:03:11 GMT
The security shot at the gunman three times before he fled. There were no shots by the gunman, he bottled it. A more determined assassin would have killed the security guards. He was spotted before he was ready while Trump was a long way off. He was clearly an amateur and a nut job. |
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Post by vinny on Sept 18, 2024 13:08:46 GMT
He was a complete amateur.
Looks like he was motivated by Trump's support of Putin and the MAGA opposition of aid to Ukraine.
At least when push came to shove he lost his bottle and ran away instead of opening fire.
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Post by Saint on Sept 18, 2024 14:25:45 GMT
What would the appropriate legal charge be if this had occurred in the UK? His actions seem merely preparatory to the planned offense, so no charge of attempted murder would lie (I'm assuming he was just waiting there for Trump to come along). If he didn't have an accomplice, there can be no charge of conspiracy. Firearms offenses, if the gun isn't licensed or the registration numbers were removed (as appears to have been the case in the Trump scenario)? I know I must be missing something. Probably some statutory offense. I remember almost zero criminal law.
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Post by montegriffo on Sept 18, 2024 15:10:50 GMT
He was a complete amateur. Looks like he was motivated by Trump's support of Putin and the MAGA opposition of aid to Ukraine. At least when push came to shove he lost his bottle and ran away instead of opening fire. In the good old days it would have been an ex-Marine and the attempt would have been successful. |
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