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Post by Saint on Mar 26, 2024 20:08:04 GMT
I swear I didn't steal this from Red Rackham. Chain gangs” of offenders in hi-vis jackets will be deployed to clean up graffiti, fly-tipping and vandalism in England and Wales, the Justice Secretary has said. Alex Chalk said the rapid deployment teams, comprising people serving sentences in the community, will be expanded from pilot schemes to cover all 12 probation regions in England and Wales. They will pick up litter from roadsides, scrub graffiti from shopfronts and underpasses and maintain neighbourhood beauty spots within 48 hours of cases being reported to the probation service. Members of the public are being invited to nominate projects in their local area under the community payback scheme, under which offenders are in hi-vis jackets so the public can see that justice is being done. The pilots were launched as part of a crackdown on anti-social behaviour by Mr Chalk when he was a junior justice minister almost three years ago. www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/03/22/chain-gangs-offenders-hi-vis-jackets-clean-graffiti/Great idea, I mean why not? I do however have one criticism, why is it restricted to people serving community sentences? Surely this should be extended to prisoners. Obviously not cat A or dangerous criminals, but there must be thousands of people in low level cat C prisons who would rather be doing menial work out in the community than banged up in a cell.
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Post by Saint on Mar 26, 2024 20:08:39 GMT
Isn't there something like this already in place?
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Post by montegriffo on Mar 26, 2024 20:11:11 GMT
Workhouses next. A return to Victorian values, what could possibly go wrong? Didn't child labour rules get slackened recently?
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Post by Saint on Mar 26, 2024 20:21:36 GMT
Workhouses next. A return to Victorian values, what could possibly go wrong? Didn't child labour rules get slackened recently? I assume they're not literal chain gangs. If they are, we're just one step away from workhouses.
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Post by totheleft on Mar 26, 2024 20:34:16 GMT
Reminds me of doing yop schemes has a kid when the unemployed was put on Community work .
Did a scheme on Rochdale Canal.
-2 4inches of Snow awful time in my life .
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Post by Saint on Mar 26, 2024 20:38:12 GMT
Reminds me of doing yop schemes has a kid when the unemployed was put on Community work . Did a scheme on Rochdale Canal. -2 4inches of Snow awful time in my life . Never heard of that. When was that done away with?
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Post by totheleft on Mar 26, 2024 20:43:22 GMT
Reminds me of doing yop schemes has a kid when the unemployed was put on Community work . Did a scheme on Rochdale Canal. -2 4inches of Snow awful time in my life . Never heard of that. When was that done away with? Yop was youth opertunities scheme in Thatcher time . Not sure when done away with worked on Allotments as well has fishing lodges. Cheap labour no opertunities at all . Worked on them for 12 months .
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Post by Saint on Mar 26, 2024 20:44:52 GMT
Never heard of that. When was that done away with? Yop was youth opertunities scheme in Thatcher time . Not sure when done away with worked on Allotments as well has fishing lodges. Cheap labour no opertunities at all . Worked on them for 12 months . Shit! It sounds straight out of Dickens.
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Post by totheleft on Mar 26, 2024 20:48:50 GMT
Yop was youth opertunities scheme in Thatcher time . Not sure when done away with worked on Allotments as well has fishing lodges. Cheap labour no opertunities at all . Worked on them for 12 months . Shit! It sounds straight out of Dickens. It was don't get me wrong it depends on who the Gang leader was. Hardly any work done at times it where I leaned how to play poker lol . Got a wage of £15 a week
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Post by Saint on Mar 26, 2024 20:49:58 GMT
Shit! It sounds straight out of Dickens. It was don't get me wrong it depends on who the Gang leader was. Hardly any work done at times it where I leaned how to play poker lol . Got a wage of £15 a week What was the economy like generally?
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Post by totheleft on Mar 26, 2024 20:57:16 GMT
It was don't get me wrong it depends on who the Gang leader was. Hardly any work done at times it where I leaned how to play poker lol . Got a wage of £15 a week What was the economy like generally? At the time UB40 released a song called 1 in 10 . About youth unemployment My Dad didn't work because of Angina. Mum had 3 jobs Cleaning in morning a pub In the After Cleaning offices and night cleaning ICI offices. DON'T know how anyone said thatchers time was good times
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Post by Saint on Mar 26, 2024 21:00:48 GMT
What was the economy like generally? At the time UB40 released a song called 1 in 10 . About youth unemployment My Dad didn't work because of Angina. Mum had 3 jobs Cleaning in morning a pub In the After Cleaning offices and night cleaning ICI offices. DON'T know how anyone said thatchers time was good times Jesus! Your poor mum. Sounds tough! Shocking that there are so many who miss Thatcher. I suppose winning a war with a second world country over a piece of sod on the other side of the world went a long way towards gathering admirers from the right.
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Post by totheleft on Mar 26, 2024 21:06:29 GMT
At the time UB40 released a song called 1 in 10 . About youth unemployment My Dad didn't work because of Angina. Mum had 3 jobs Cleaning in morning a pub In the After Cleaning offices and night cleaning ICI offices. DON'T know how anyone said thatchers time was good times Jesus! Your poor mum. Sounds tough! Shocking that there are so many who miss Thatcher. I suppose winning a war with a second world country over a piece of sod on the other side of the world went a long way towards gathering admirers from the right. I think thatcher got in with the woman vote at first . Then the Falkland war like you said. And 3td time the Awful Brighton boming. Don't think she got elected on polices.
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Post by Saint on Mar 26, 2024 21:10:52 GMT
Jesus! Your poor mum. Sounds tough! Shocking that there are so many who miss Thatcher. I suppose winning a war with a second world country over a piece of sod on the other side of the world went a long way towards gathering admirers from the right. I think thatcher got in with the woman vote at first . Then the Falkland war like you said. And 3td time the Awful Brighton boming. Don't think she got elected on polices. Oh, right. I never thought about the women's vote. That's interesting. Yes, I suppose she will have got a lot of votes because of her sex first time round.
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Post by totheleft on Mar 26, 2024 21:24:35 GMT
I think thatcher got in with the woman vote at first . Then the Falkland war like you said. And 3td time the Awful Brighton boming. Don't think she got elected on polices. Oh, right. I never thought about the women's vote. That's interesting. Yes, I suppose she will have got a lot of votes because of her sex first time round. If Callagan the then labour PM had called a Election earlier Labour would of won .
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