Steve
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Post by Steve on Aug 1, 2024 16:24:36 GMT
IIRC land that has no registered owner, no owner able to claim registered title and isn't in the possession of local, devolved or central government; belongs to the Crown
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Post by Saint on Aug 1, 2024 16:53:26 GMT
John knows the land is not his. That is all the information he needs. If that were the case then no un-owned land could become property because nobody who didn't own it could use it. Land is peculiar because it must become property and so it isn't self evident that it is property. I'm not sure how relevant it is, but, if I remember correctly, the policy behind the laws of adverse possession (squatters' rights) is that land is too valuable a commodity to be left in the hands of those who have no use for it. So, if you don't use it, you lose it.
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Post by Orac on Aug 1, 2024 18:44:29 GMT
I think those laws have a very old origin and come from a time when land ownership was more a social arrangement than a commodity type arrangement - not that i'm disagreeing at all with the way you put it. The way land was treated in the past was quite different to now - often it came with customary and acient responsibilities and this was a (as you say) nod to trying to make society work. It evolved.
The right to exclude others from territory itself has immense power, which is why landowners (as a group) can command so much
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