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Post by Zany on Sept 12, 2024 19:54:06 GMT
Everything you reply to me and others may, or may not be true. But, whatever the causes, the fact remains that NHS shortages of staff and facilties are real, and are causing backlogs that are dangerous and harmful for many patients (and staff). The need to address these problems is immediate!
Updating and building more facilities, and training for much-needed additional medical staff will take years — a decade has been suggested.
Meanwhile — although perhaps jarring to some NHS supporters — a solution already exists in the private sector to tied the UK's healthcare system over the next few years. By this I do not mean expensive agency doctors and nurses, but ready up-and-running total medical facilities and teams.
Political dogma has been critically damaging the NHS on and off for decades. Labour has very few years to gain cross-party and medical support for a long term plan that won't be subject to stop/start industrial and political interference...
Not to mention lost working hours. We have several staff on reduced hours and work due to waiting times at the NHS. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2024 20:21:45 GMT
No one will begrudge a short-term measure to use private capacity, but that's already being done and was done under both Tories and the last Lab admin, with no long-term solution to reduce need for private demand. The point is that Lab have no long term plan to fix this stopgap measure and that has been pointed out by respected medical journals too - Lab simply want to expand it Well seeing as it was Sir Kier that commissioned the emergency report, its a bit unfair to say they have no plans. My worry is that they scare themselves out of taking bold actions for fear of being seen as profligate. Well now you're just lying about what I said aren't you? I never said they have no plans, I said they have no long term plan to fix this stopgap measure. It's impossible to debate with you when you're being this clearly dishonest about what I've posted |
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Post by Zany on Sept 12, 2024 20:43:02 GMT
Well seeing as it was Sir Kier that commissioned the emergency report, its a bit unfair to say they have no plans. My worry is that they scare themselves out of taking bold actions for fear of being seen as profligate. Well now you're just lying about what I said aren't you? I never said they have no plans, I said they have no long term plan to fix this stopgap measure. It's impossible to debate with you when you're being this clearly dishonest about what I've posted The subtlety of the difference between the two evades me. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2024 20:51:38 GMT
You: Well seeing as it was Sir Kier that commissioned the emergency report, its a bit unfair to say they have no plans.
I never said they have no plans, I said they have no plan to fix the stopgap measure to use private services to fill gaps ie they will remain reliant on it and haven't addressed the underlying causes.
Please now point where in the report they address the underlying problems and suggest that this needs to remain a temporary measure - and that they will phase it out in the future?
Can you or can you not?
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Post by Zany on Sept 12, 2024 21:21:21 GMT
You: Well seeing as it was Sir Kier that commissioned the emergency report, its a bit unfair to say they have no plans. I never said they have no plans, I said they have no plan to fix the stopgap measure to use private services to fill gaps ie they will remain reliant on it and haven't addressed the underlying causes. Please now point where in the report they address the underlying problems and suggest that this needs to remain a temporary measure - and that they will phase it out in the future? Can you or can you not? Bit late tonight and travelling tomorrow, but I will look when I get back. Bear with me till then to answer properly. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2024 4:47:13 GMT
It's hilarious to see people in other threads claiming the right wing media have now turned on Labour. Well, Labour tried their best to woo them and write articles bashing evil middle class "lefties" in The Sun and now it's backfired spectacularly Karm(ala) is a bitch  |
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