‘Middle-Class Lefties’ Won’t Stop Lab Using Pvt Sec in NHS

Not quite what PFI was. 

'When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser'

Ironic, as you yourself have often railed against 'schoolyard insults' yet engage in them constantly, the hypocrisy is off the charts.

But I guess it's me who's lacking in understanding right?

I find it hilarious that Labour are now so out of touch with ordinary people, that they must insult them to get their point across.

"We are the party of the working class"

Also Labour:

<Insert Emily Thornberry insulting white van men and insulting working class Brexiters>

I think it's comically wrong that Rachel Reeves is getting heating allowance costs to heat her 2nd home while pensioners suffer. While rich expats abroad get it
Rachel Reeves has defended claiming expenses for energy bills at her second home after the Government’s plans to scale back winter fuel payments for pensioners cleared the Commons.

Well, no worries, Labour's strategy is working a treat.


I fully encourage Pat to keep it up and start insulting people as they must be thick as mince if they don't agree with ballooning PFI debt. It's working wonders for the Labour party in the polls, Starmer's personal approval rating is also profiting handsomely from it and they aren't in any way squandering their majority at the election

I truly think it's brilliant the way Labour are vilifying themselves as much or more so than the Tories, how can you manage to make them look like a viable option after all the likes of Liz Truss etc have been in power. Oh yes, by re-embracing PFIs, by aping Tory policy, by doing everything wrong and engaging in the worst cronyist corruption

I await Pat's next condescending and patronising lecture on how I am too stupid to be on this site, because he's vastly more intelligent, nevermind what the pollsters say, they are wrong too

www.opendemocracy.net/en/ournhs/three-quarters-of-uk-public-worried-more-nhs-privatisation-will-damage-care/

The pollsters, many groups of experts, many in parliament etc all agree that privatisation is a bad idea - but Pat needs to explain it at Janet and John levels to them too because they're too stupid to understand what he's saying either. Let's forget the idea that PFI debt caused problems, let's forget the botched privatisations of the health service (and yes the education service if we must go there - Labour failed on that too) and so many other things, incl welfare and countless other stuff.

Maybe we should be thankful Labour might talk themselves out of power come next election the way things are going

He didn't insult you for not agreeing with ballooning PFI debt. He insulted you for failing to recognise what was being discussed was not PFI, even after you were told so directly. 

Hold on a second - how can it not be PFI when I brought up the discussion in the thread, with a link to an article about PFI and he replied directly after it? 

What are you even on about?

Then you attempted to derail the thread by introducing a spurious point unrelated to that thread, and then got arsey when people misunderstood you. 

PFI stands for Private Finance Initiative, a controversial UK government program that involved public-private partnerships to fund and build public assets.
That is to say private money borrowed to provide public services.
It was the borrowing and the associated poor terms that gave PFI a bad name. 
Once again NOT the use of existing private health services to catch up on waiting lists.