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Post by vinny on Jun 27, 2024 12:40:03 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx77l5ej2yyoThe BBC tracked down a smuggler, got his phone number, confronted him and rang his phone. He got it out and answered. They caught him. So why can't FRONTEX, Europol, the French Police and for that matter, our authorities which liaise with those on the continent perform investigations to this standard and catch the people killing smugglers? He was identified in Calais, his identity was confirmed in Berlin, he was tracked down and approached by reporters in Luxembourg. He caused the death of a seven year old girl.
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Post by AvonCalling on Jun 27, 2024 12:44:14 GMT
Do we know for sure that they aren't doing it?
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Post by vinny on Jun 27, 2024 12:46:44 GMT
They might be, but are they doing enough?
I still keep hearing about drownings.
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Post by AvonCalling on Jun 27, 2024 13:10:52 GMT
They might be, but are they doing enough? I still keep hearing about drownings. I think when it comes to enough I would elaborate to are they doing enough given the resources and constraints they are operating under |
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Post by Steve on Jun 27, 2024 16:49:09 GMT
The BBC didn't have to work within the rules on evidence.
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Post by vinny on Jul 5, 2024 22:37:35 GMT
There are libel laws. The BBC needs evidence too.
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Post by Steve on Jul 5, 2024 22:50:17 GMT
There are libel laws. The BBC needs evidence too. Go read those libel laws so so many reasons why the evidence standard is different and of course numerous get out methods. ie an invalid comparison. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2024 8:25:23 GMT
There are libel laws. The BBC needs evidence too. Go read those libel laws so so many reasons why the evidence standard is different and of course numerous get out methods. ie an invalid comparison. The bbc aren’t in the business of law enforcement or have the expertise and resources to do that so that's an invalid comparison isn’t it? |
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Post by Steve on Jul 6, 2024 11:07:17 GMT
No, my point is the OP is the invalid comparison and Vinny bringing in libel was even more invalid.
Law Authorities have to work to much higher standards of evidence gathering and prosecution
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2024 11:15:05 GMT
No, my point is the OP is the invalid comparison and Vinny bringing in libel was even more invalid. Law Authorities have to work to much higher standards of evidence gathering and prosecution Well it doesn’t stop them drowning people does it (allegedly) or shooting at them. |
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Post by Steve on Jul 6, 2024 11:21:58 GMT
meanwhile back at the actual point at hand . . . .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2024 14:40:27 GMT
meanwhile back at the actual point at hand . . . . Yes Vinnys actual point |
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Post by Steve on Jul 6, 2024 15:20:20 GMT
Which as demonstrated, was wrong
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2024 16:22:30 GMT
Which as demonstrated, was wrong Only in your opinion whilst others see it differently. |
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Post by Steve on Jul 6, 2024 16:50:02 GMT
That'd be you, the man in your mirror v all the experts at Frontex plus at least me.
Tell the man in your mirror that if the authorities arrest someone without convincing reason and due process it can prevent effective further legal pursuit of them. Then he can explain it to you.
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