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Post by RedRum on Jun 4, 2024 2:52:18 GMT
It's a term only you have used in this thread so really it's for you to show the relevance Apologies, it was 'far left'. I would still like a definition because it seems far left and Hamas supporters are in some way linked, just looking for clarification. |
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Post by Steve on Jun 4, 2024 8:16:57 GMT
Please define 'Hard-left'. OK taking that as 'far left' Anyone who believes all the means of production should be nationalised and that large international companies are as a default evil. Aka as 'Wolfie Smiths' |
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Post by RedRum on Jun 4, 2024 8:58:17 GMT
Please define 'Hard-left'. OK taking that as 'far left' Anyone who believes all the means of production should be nationalised and that large international companies are as a default evil. Aka as 'Wolfie Smiths' I consider myself to be on the left side of left but I certainly do not believe in what you are claiming. Business, whether private or national, is what keeps a country going. It is the association of the 'far left' and Hamas that I find troubling. |
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Post by Steve on Jun 4, 2024 9:01:59 GMT
Then you (like me) are not far left.
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Post by RedRum on Jun 5, 2024 11:05:36 GMT
Then you (like me) are not far left. That is the question I was asking, given I disagree with your examples, what is far left. |
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Post by patman post on Jun 8, 2024 13:41:43 GMT
It's a term only you have used in this thread so really it's for you to show the relevance Apologies, it was 'far left'. I would still like a definition because it seems far left and Hamas supporters are in some way linked, just looking for clarification. Far/Hard Left and Hamas supporters do seem to embrace each other's doctrines of anti-capitalism, anti-West, and anti-individualism. Opposition to their "cult's" views can be punished by vandalism and violence.
Strangely, Hamas and other religiously-grouped violent activists often appear to exert control of their captive flocks in a fascist manner of indoctrination and force.
Far Left often believes the ordinary adherent that's dictated to by their political and religious leaders are oppressed by the West and voices its support to their causes.
But in addition, the Far Left also believes equality at home is more likely to be achieved by levelling down, rather than helping individual aspiration. It will also mobilise (sometimes violent) industrial action to tear down and rebuild society as it wants. Scargill needed Thatcher to break the Hard Left's forces. It wasn't pleasant, but the killing of a driver taking strike-breaking miners to work caused revulsion at the miners' tactics.
More moderate socialism and Leftish centrists tend to regard society as an organism that can be nudged and guided to greater prosperity by offering a political climate that encourages individuals to work for prosperity, which will in turn also provide additional care for those who need it...
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