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Post by montegriffo on May 9, 2024 14:33:17 GMT
AKA jock bait.
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Steve
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Post by Steve on May 9, 2024 16:53:00 GMT
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Post by montegriffo on May 9, 2024 20:10:40 GMT
3 out of the top 6 go to Mel Gibson films. That's quite an achievement. |
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Post by walterpaisley on May 13, 2024 10:20:30 GMT
Mr Gibson is very good at filmmaking, but not so good at history.
Personally, I'm in two minds on the whole "accuracy" thing. If something is "right" on the broad strokes, and the makers have sacrificed historical fact for storytelling, I'm cool with that (The Great Escape is hardly a documentary, but it's a cracking good yarn. The Agony and the Ecstasy is a favourite film, but the details are all over the shop, etc, etc..)
My personal favourite, when it comes to (as one critic at the time put it) "sublime inaccuracy" is the 1957 biopic The Buster Keaton Story. Donald O'Connor makes a pretty good fist of playing the great man (he was coached by Mr Keaton himself), but he later told a story about the production..
They were shooting the heartbreaking scene when Joe Keaton (Buster's father) dies on stage after a tragic accident, while performing in a circus. With great sensitivity, O'Connor asked Mr Keaton about that awful day, and if it'd be too traumatic to be on set as it was reconstructed.
"Not really, kid - I'll be fine. Dad never played the circus, and he died in his sleep in a nursing home last year."
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Post by Steve on May 13, 2024 11:55:51 GMT
If the inaccuracy is to the disadvantage of any living person or anyone living that knew them, it's wrong.
Same as if the purpose is to malign a known group of people - which is what Anglophobe Gibson likes to do
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Post by montegriffo on May 13, 2024 13:50:40 GMT
Mr Gibson is very good at filmmaking, but not so good at history. Personally, I'm in two minds on the whole "accuracy" thing. If something is "right" on the broad strokes, and the makers have sacrificed historical fact for storytelling, I'm cool with that (The Great Escape is hardly a documentary, but it's a cracking good yarn. The Agony and the Ecstasy is a favourite film, but the details are all over the shop, etc, etc..) My personal favourite, when it comes to (as one critic at the time put it) "sublime inaccuracy" is the 1957 biopic The Buster Keaton Story. Donald O'Connor makes a pretty good fist of playing the great man (he was coached by Mr Keaton himself), but he later told a story about the production.. They were shooting the heartbreaking scene when Joe Keaton (Buster's father) dies on stage after a tragic accident, while performing in a circus. With great sensitivity, O'Connor asked Mr Keaton about that awful day, and if it'd be too traumatic to be on set as it was reconstructed. "Not really, kid - I'll be fine. Dad never played the circus, and he died in his sleep in a nursing home last year." The historian in the above video comes to the conclusion that Braveheart is wildly inaccurate and unfair to Edward I but a lively romp and an entertaining film. He liked it. No sign of any bridge at the Battle of Stirling Bridge was a memorable shortfall. |
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Post by walterpaisley on May 13, 2024 14:19:26 GMT
The historian in the above video comes to the conclusion that Braveheart is wildly inaccurate and unfair to Edward I but a lively romp and an entertaining film. He liked it. No sign of any bridge at the Battle of Stirling Bridge was a memorable shortfall. I can't say I'm that bothered at the possibility of being "unfair" to people who died many centuries ago,if it's in the service of a good yarn. |
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